# LS1, now with 12 cylinders **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 6, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446 "2013-05-06T18:06:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/1 "2013-05-06T18:06:14Z")
fuck your “project”, right? saw this browsing Conversions and Hybrids on there. https://player.vimeo.com/video/65439073?app_id=122963 > **[LSV12 is the Most Awesome Thing You'll See All Day - LS1Tech.com](https://ls1tech.com/articles/lsv12-is-the-most-awesome-thing-youll-see-all-day/)** > > There has been a lot of incredible stuff to come out of these forums... But this one might be my favorite. [http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1643786-v12-ls1-build.html](http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1643786-v12-ls1-build.html) ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/2 "2013-05-06T18:55:44Z")
:tup: ---
**Author:** ![robftw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@robftw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robftw)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/3 "2013-05-06T19:13:21Z")
Glad to see it going in a quality car ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/4 "2013-05-06T19:31:36Z")
> [@robftw](#): > > Glad to see it going in a quality car You see, ONE color, not two or three, or four !! Take notes rob. ---
**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/5 "2013-05-06T19:32:04Z")
Lol ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/6 "2013-05-06T19:50:26Z")
Whhhaaattttt? ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/7 "2013-05-07T08:10:37Z")
Hate to be “that guy” but there is a 4 cylinder Ls1 hidden in that build thread that has me way more interested. I feel the 4 cylinder Ls swap would be tits for motorcycles etc. ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/8 "2013-05-07T08:14:44Z")
Agreed. Lots of bikes nowadays are pushing 170+hp, but they’re doing it with the help of ITBs, crazy high compression, and 16,000rpm redlines. Assuming a stockish LS1 makes 300whp stock, you’d have a 150whp V-4 with lots of room to grow. I wonder what it would sound like… ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/9 "2013-05-07T08:17:24Z")
I saw the V4 too. Would that be called an LS.5? ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/10 "2013-05-07T08:19:33Z")
I actually think the lsv4 in a bike would be pretty lack luster. As aprillia/Honda etc has been doing it for years and have it dialed. Id love to see this v4 swap be available,cheap and reliable. I think this would demolish the sr20,ej25,f20 etc scene. Really any longitudinal rwd bases platforms. Serious game changer. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/11 "2013-05-07T08:25:31Z")
This is the loudest thing to scream 'MERICA since some militia guys told the British to GTFO of our country. ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/12 "2013-05-07T09:00:54Z")
> [@BREETIME](#): > > I actually think the lsv4 in a bike would be pretty lack luster. As aprillia/Honda etc has been doing it for years and have it dialed. > Id love to see this v4 swap be available,cheap and reliable. I think this would demolish the sr20,ej25,f20 etc scene. Really any longitudinal rwd bases platforms. Serious game changer. +1. would try one in my caterham/locost super7 build for SURE ---
**Author:** ![robftw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@robftw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robftw)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/13 "2013-05-07T09:07:40Z")
Inb4 gm makes ls v4 powered rwd frs killers ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/14 "2013-05-07T09:10:39Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > Hate to be “that guy” but there is a 4 cylinder Ls1 hidden in that build thread that has me way more interested. I feel the 4 cylinder Ls swap would be tits for motorcycles etc. I always wondered why they didn’t downscale the LS1 to a 4 cylinder version to use instead of the ecotec. It seems like they have the LS1 pretty well ironed out + it would have outstanding power ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/15 "2013-05-07T10:16:11Z")
> [@96V6Bird](#): > > Agreed. Lots of bikes nowadays are pushing 170+hp, but they’re doing it with the help of ITBs, crazy high compression, and 16,000rpm redlines. Assuming a stockish LS1 makes 300whp stock, you’d have a 150whp V-4 with lots of room to grow. I wonder what it would sound like… Ducati desmo is a 200hp L4 and the aprillia rsv4 is 201hp V4 .I don’t know much more you can improve on a L/V configuration 4 banger under 1000cc without adding psi or n2o. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/16 "2013-05-07T10:23:37Z")
[quote=“HouseS2K,post:15,topic:230446"”] Ducati desmo is a 200hp L4 and the aprillia rsv4 is 201hp V4 .I don’t know much more you can improve on a L/V configuration 4 banger under 1000cc without adding psi or n2o. [/quote] the next big thing to gain power will be the removal of camshafts in engines. ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-now-with-12-cylinders/230446/17 "2013-05-07T11:38:14Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > the next big thing to gain power will be the removal of camshafts in engines. Yeah that free valve technology seems pretty sweet