# ls1 taking over (sorry i had to)
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [October 30, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875 "2008-10-30T08:50:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/41 "2008-10-31T04:39:26Z")
> [@jdaniels](#):
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> Clown shoe. [Toy-Jet.com](http://toy-jet.com/index2.html)
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> Reading \> you
didn’t realize they were talking about a **1980** porsche engine, wtf?! OHHhhh, the lsx is lighter than an engine 20 years older than it, super duper.
prosche engine \> lsx
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### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/42 "2008-10-31T05:44:56Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#):
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> The APR Porsche went 9.8 with an exhaust and a tune. No LS1 needed :umm
wouldnt doubt that for a second, after seeing what they can do with a GTI at VIR
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### Author:  [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/43 "2008-10-31T06:16:54Z")
i think its pretty sick…
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### Author:  [@xreaction](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xreaction)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/44 "2008-10-31T18:44:45Z")
[http://www.dsmworld.net/forum/dsm-media/2354-911-dsm.html](http://www.dsmworld.net/forum/dsm-media/2354-911-dsm.html)
sorry. i had to also :lol
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### Author:  [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/45 "2008-10-31T21:17:16Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> didn’t realize they were talking about a **1980** porsche engine, wtf?! OHHhhh, the lsx is lighter than an engine 20 years older than it, super duper.
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> prosche engine \> lsx
:confused
Your posts make me feel like standing in the middle of the Northway.
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/46 "2008-10-31T22:23:55Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> the intae manifold and the exhaust manifold are ont he same side of the head… counterflow design. not the most brilliant way to package things really.
:nono Motor sits 20 degrees canted right, header between pass frame rail and right side of head. Intake manifold 22.4" runner up off left side of head and over. 951’s position the K26 down below the intake manifold, but still get feed via a crossover pipe from right side header. 8 or 16v, they’ve never been crossover 😉
Nicole, 944’s are great cars when purchased clean and un-abused. Have a PPI done and find a good one if you’re interested. I’ve owned a few and regretted selling them. Great handling, good amount of power(for day and age). T belt and associated idlers are the biggest nemesis. All should be changed on a regular 30K mile interval, checked every 15K. Like all old german cars they tend to leak oil, just either have to get used to it or sink money into pulling the engine and resealing everything. 16V S2’s are my prime choice if searching, abeit pricey amongst p-car enthusiasts. S3’s are even more rare(944 with transplanted 968 3 liter) but holy crap what an amazing car.
Avoid 951’s unless you have a bankroll to play with. 951’s can be purchased for under $10K, but will 99% likely require at least half that again in repairs/maintenance within the first year unless you get really lucky. Most 951’s have live a run hard put away wet track lifestyle…
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/47 "2008-10-31T22:37:16Z")
> [@Boxersix](#):
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> :nono
yeah brain fart dude, im thinking the audi 10v turbo thats counterflow, all crammed into the passenger side… the 951 motor was passenger side exhaust with the crossover pipe, with the turbo mounted under the intake manifold. which is driveside. long runner. and still a poor design.
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/48 "2008-10-31T22:38:42Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> yeah brain fart dude, im thinking the audi 10v turbo thats counterflow, all crammed into the passenger side… the 951 motor was passenger side exhaust with the crossover pipe, with the turbo mounted under the intake manifold. which is driveside. long runner. and still a poor design.
ha beat me to it, was editing my post for clarity…yes you are now correct 🙂
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/49 "2008-10-31T22:41:11Z")
> [@Boxersix](#):
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> ha beat me to it, was editing my post for clarity…yes you are now correct 🙂
yeah i know, had and error between mind and my finger tips. with all the talks of JVGs 10v turbo my mind was cluttered… ive been a big fan of 951’s since about 98-99, mind you i was about 13-14. my friend had a guards/black 86 951 back around that time… it sat for a while and his father started it, and the timing belt skipped… BOO
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/50 "2008-10-31T23:08:24Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> with all the talks of JVGs 10v turbo my mind was cluttered…
Oh, you mean me having to put know it all assholes in their place in other threads :idiots
> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> ive been a big fan of 951’s since about 98-99, mind you i was about 13-14. my friend had a guards/black 86 951 back around that time… it sat for a while and his father started it, and the timing belt skipped… BOO
I love the cars. Absolutely love them. I personally wouldn’t own a 951 myself just being a p-car mechanic and knowing what always goes into them. Personally I’d love to find another mint 88-89 8v roller with a blown engine and put a 968 3 liter and 6 speed in it. They’re an amazing car, and would make a killer daily driver/fun toy-to-work ride.
Kinda like putting a vr6/02m in an old rabbit, except that it can turn and stop good :lol
I really miss my '88 though…
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/51 "2008-10-31T23:36:29Z")
> [@Boxersix](#):
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> Kinda like putting a vr6/02m in an old rabbit, except that it can turn and stop good :lol
no way man. 02m is overkill and mk2\>mk1 ive owned a few of both and the rabbit just doesnt do it for me… and about turning and stopping. my 91 GTI with a AAA VR6 turned and stopped just fine, corrado 11inch with 9.4 solid discs in the rear, 22mm master cylinder 4w disc proportion valve. H&R suspension for a corrado SLC, it worked great together.
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### Author:  [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/52 "2008-11-01T04:07:24Z")
> [@plaf713](#):
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> [Supercharged LS1 Porsche 911](http://toy-jet.com/Index4.html)
Engine swaps made across a manufacturer’s “family lines” are like sex change operations …
- to begin with, they make no sense at all
- it never ends up looking right
- eventually, it will self destruct/fall apart
- is a total waste of time and money
- is unnatural in it’s very concept, as it is in reality
Boooo …
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/53 "2008-11-01T16:30:45Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> no way man. 02m is overkill and mk2\>mk1 ive owned a few of both and the rabbit just doesnt do it for me… and about turning and stopping. my 91 GTI with a AAA VR6 turned and stopped just fine, corrado 11inch with 9.4 solid discs in the rear, 22mm master cylinder 4w disc proportion valve. H&R suspension for a corrado SLC, it worked great together.
I know, just pulling your chain a little ;D
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### Author:  [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/54 "2008-11-02T08:24:34Z")
> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> Engine swaps made across a manufacturer’s “family lines” are like sex change operations …
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> - to begin with, they make no sense at all
> - it never ends up looking right
> - eventually, it will self destruct/fall apart
> - is a total waste of time and money
> - is unnatural in it’s very concept, as it is in reality
>
> Boooo …
you fail. there are a couple engines that bring win no matter what they are in. the lsx and 2jz-gte are two of them.
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/55 "2008-11-02T13:12:30Z")
> [@slwrthnu](#):
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> you fail. there are a couple engines that bring win no matter what they are in. the lsx and 2jz-gte are two of them.
smart man :cool
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### Author:  [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/56 "2008-11-02T13:59:07Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> smafrt man :cool
i want an lsx powered car for my next project.
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/57 "2008-11-03T04:50:09Z")
> [@jdaniels](#):
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> :confused
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> Your posts make me feel like standing in the middle of the Northway.
next time I’ll use smaller words and and draw pictures so you don’t get so :confused.
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### Author:  [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-taking-over-sorry-i-had-to/239875/58 "2008-11-03T13:16:23Z")
> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> Engine swaps made across a manufacturer’s “family lines” are like sex change operations …
>
> - to begin with, they make no sense at all
> - it never ends up looking right
> - eventually, it will self destruct/fall apart
> - is a total waste of time and money
> - is unnatural in it’s very concept, as it is in reality
>
> Boooo …
Your posts are frequently filled with fail.
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