# LSD in front-drive platforms vs. winter driving

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 26, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577 "2010-02-26T20:52:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/41 "2010-02-27T19:02:39Z")

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> [@Do points x'fer?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-points-xfer/29630/12):
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> yeah for 99% of the public the quaifes are great because those people dont drive spiritedly.

Fixed slightly.

Disclaimer edit: There are fast FWD race cars running Queefs with success, however they spend a lot of time perfecting the setup to enable it to put the power down. FWD cars already have enough trouble not tearing up their front tires, and not just the ones with 500whp.

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/42 "2010-02-27T19:08:00Z")

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the best FWD ive ever had in the snow is the fiance’s '03 4dr civic auto with an open diff. thing is a tank and theres nothing ive been in that gave me probles!

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/43 "2010-02-28T08:16:47Z")

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> [@Strip Clubs: the poll (pole?)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strip-clubs-the-poll-pole/29611/37):
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> One thing I forgot to say is that the queef’s(nice clark) are not actually LSD’s. They don’t slip internally at all.

Phantom Grip FTMFW

/thread

/sarcasm

Best car I’ve driven in the snow is the LGT. With snows. Never got stuck. Easy car to do 150+ bombs on Rt. 9 with too.

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/44 "2010-02-28T08:35:04Z")

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> [@FS: Nitrous Gauge](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-nitrous-gauge/29080/4):
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> Phantom Grip FTMFW
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> /thread
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> /sarcasm
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> Best car I’ve driven in the snow is the LGT. With snows. Never got stuck. Easy car to do 150+ bombs on Rt. 9 with too.

Phantom grip is no joke…

Proof

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**Author:** ![imported\_FULLBLOWN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_fullblown/32/6411_2.png) [@imported\_FULLBLOWN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_FULLBLOWN)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/45 "2010-02-28T12:06:57Z")

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The 3 is great in the snow. Blizzaks, lsd and dsc to keep ya going straight. But there are times (high centered) when I have to scratch the dsc and get some wheel spin to get moving.

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/46 "2010-02-28T14:10:03Z")

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Pretty sure the Quaife on the Cobalt is a 1 way helical. They don’t work if don’t already have some traction, that’s why they became open when one wheel is of the ground. They are OEM stuff and It is better than nothing, that’s it.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/47 "2010-02-28T14:39:46Z")

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I like the combination of my front and rear suretrac lsd’s and my electronic center diff

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/48 "2010-02-28T14:54:14Z")

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Welded diff FTW

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/49 "2010-02-28T18:56:42Z")

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> [@Two PCI Video cards?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/two-pci-video-cards/29640/2):
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> Phantom grip is no joke…
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> Proof
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> ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Shady195/IMG00070-20090814-1330.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/0/f080e7bdcdd6a8f41efe19cb004f46cd330fb1e5.jpeg)

So wait… When the two rears spin, the rear diff detaches itself from zip ties holding it to the subframe, the single bolt to the driveshaft automatically shears, then the pumpkin spins around held in place by the half-shafts all the while acting as a dredging mechanism to remove snow from under the car for increased traction?!

If so, that’s SAWEEEEEEEEEET kid sign me up

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lsd-in-front-drive-platforms-vs-winter-driving/250577/50 "2010-03-01T10:13:18Z")

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I got stuck in my almost flat driveway in my jetta with both wheels a spinnin. must have been the bald ass tires.

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