# LT1 V. Ls1

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 22, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515 "2006-11-22T07:28:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/41 "2006-11-24T06:42:35Z")

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> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#):
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> _I havent talked about you in a long time, but if you want to see how well my car runs, Im STILL waiting for a race._

lol I had people calling me over summer telling me you were talking about it at Pauls shop…I figured you would have better things to talk about. Then some highschool type bullshit and making shit up.

Im down to race next spring…my car is off the road and has been for a month.

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**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/42 "2006-11-24T06:45:23Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> lol I had people calling me over summer telling me you were talking about it at Pauls shop…I figured you would have better things to talk about. Then some highschool type bullshit and making shit up.
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> Im down to race next spring…my car is off the road and has been for a month.

You’re so gullible, it must have been from your head hitting the hood. But my car is out, so feel free to find me whenever.

To stay on topic, that will give us a good LT1 vs LS1 race, since everyone seems to think its only LS1s with topend, and that idea is weaksauce.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/43 "2006-11-24T06:50:34Z")

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lol someday you might get past making shit up huh? Don’t worry people do grow out of the highschool mentalilty someday…

I got no personal probblems with you besides this one issue…so when you get over it let me know.

Yea back on topic…

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**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/44 "2006-11-24T07:04:29Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> lol someday you might get past making shit up huh? Don’t worry people do grow out of the highschool mentalilty someday…
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> I got no personal probblems with you besides this one issue…so when you get over it let me know.
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> Yea back on topic…

My only personal problem is with JnJ, so dont add to it now.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/45 "2006-11-24T07:13:37Z")

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> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#):
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> My only personal problem is with JnJ, so dont add to it now.

Yea but who doesnt hate JnJ :biglaugh:

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**Author:** ![bamfer9duce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@bamfer9duce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bamfer9duce)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/46 "2006-11-24T07:43:43Z")

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> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#):
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> My only personal problem is with JnJ, so dont add to it now.

Maybe you should return the items you took from JnJ. Last I heard you still owe him money, have his engine lift and a few other things

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/47 "2006-11-24T07:46:33Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> Yea back on topic…

Good idea,

All things being equal you are better off to start out with an LS1. You also pay more for a newer car with the technology. If you didn’t have much money to spend you might want to consider the LT1. The car will be much cheaper and the money you save buying a cheap car can go towards modifications

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**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/48 "2006-11-24T07:56:32Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> Mark pushed me while I was drinking a coffee never threw me over the hood of any car…Now he runs around blowing the story up everywhere years later since he has nothing better to talk about.

The funny thing is, i never heard this story from badazz 😉

And maybe you should tell your personal dickrider DrDos not to tell me that you “want to kick my ass”. I dont take kindly to personal threats.

> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> Let me clear something up for you peice of white trash jerk off…

Pot, meet kettle

🤣

But im finshed back on topic.

I in all honesty \<3 the ls1s

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**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/49 "2006-11-24T08:28:45Z")

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> [@bamfer9duce](#):
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> Maybe you should return the items you took from JnJ. Last I heard you still owe him money, have his engine lift and a few other things

and maybe your brother should return control of the forum he stole. Last i heard he is still a douche bag

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**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/50 "2006-11-24T08:34:25Z")

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Come on people lets not fight. Let us not forget that LS1, LT1 they are both V8’s.

Can’t we all just get along. :lol:

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/51 "2006-11-24T08:59:42Z")

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> [@ImportMuscle](#):
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> And maybe you should tell your personal dickrider DrDos not to tell me that you “want to kick my ass”. I dont take kindly to personal threats.

lol i find this funny cuz you will never have anything fast.

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**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/52 "2006-11-24T09:23:17Z")

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> [@DrDoS](#):
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> lol i find this funny cuz you will never have anything fast.

right now i have other priorites in my life

like getting through school  
and setting myself up for a decent life

maybe not now but soon ill start a project that suites my tastes, and i sure as fuck wont put myself into massive debt to do it :tup:

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**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/53 "2006-11-24T09:36:20Z")

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> [@DrDoS](#):
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> lol i find this funny cuz you will never have anything fast.

i find it funny because you’re one to talk :lol:

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**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/54 "2006-11-24T09:43:49Z")

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but anyways, back on topic

One actual serious question i have is when were the ls1’s put into production?

For a build on a first gen s-10 chassis ive always figured id go with a 383 built with a carb and ditch the whole tuned port setup. Now, are the 4.8’s and the 5.3’s in the silverados considered LS1s? i know they can be had for about the same amount of money as a junkyard LT1, but maybe keeping the fuel injection setup wouldnt be all that bad…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/55 "2006-11-24T09:47:59Z")

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Those 5.3s and 4.3s are all GEN III GM engines so yes.

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**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/56 "2006-11-24T09:53:12Z")

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all this f-body on f-body crime…thanks for the afternoon enjoyment.

justin i heart you but mark will pwn joo come spring time

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/57 "2006-11-24T09:53:48Z")

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> [@jeeves744](#):
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> i find it funny because you’re one to talk :lol:

stay on your knee’s boy.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/58 "2006-11-24T10:08:48Z")

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> [@Twizted](#):
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> all this f-body on f-body crime…thanks for the afternoon enjoyment.
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> justin i heart you but mark will pwn joo come spring time

lol with me driving what car? The formula or the mustang?

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**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/59 "2006-11-24T10:12:34Z")

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wheels up in the stang son

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**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lt1-v-ls1/20515/60 "2006-11-24T10:32:09Z")

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> [@ImportMuscle](#):
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> but anyways, back on topic
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> One actual serious question i have is when were the ls1’s put into production?
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> For a build on a first gen s-10 chassis ive always figured id go with a 383 built with a carb and ditch the whole tuned port setup. Now, are the 4.8’s and the 5.3’s in the silverados considered LS1s? i know they can be had for about the same amount of money as a junkyard LT1, but maybe keeping the fuel injection setup wouldnt be all that bad…

There are 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.2, and 7.0 varieties of LSx engines. The 5.7 LS1 began in vettes in 97 and fbods in 98. 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 were the truck versions (techinically lq4, lq9 etc) beginning in 99 (although they also still made gen1 sbcs in trucks at the same time for 99 and 00). The LS2 in GTOs and vettes are also 6.0. They have a 6.2 coming out in new stuff, and the 7.0 is the LS7 in the newest vette z06.

98 Fbod computers were different than 99+ versions. 97-98 rod bolts are said to be the weakest, and I can attest to that. 97-98 also had different oil passages. LS6 blocks have the same bore/stroke as LS1s but were said to be stronger and came with better heads. LS6s came in Z06 vettes and later were mixed into production on Fbods but without the LS6 heads.

LT1s were 92-96 in vettes and 93-97 in fbods. There were also LT1s and baby LT1s available in caprices & roadmasters 93-95. There are 2 different opti styles, and 3 different front covers. The balancers and accessories are mounted diff. between the different cars it came with. 95+ have stronger, powdered metal rods. 93 fbod computers are different than 94+.

Fuel injection FTW in a DD.

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