# M12 GTO 3R- i thought these were more? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 21, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376 "2011-02-21T14:47:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/1 "2011-02-21T14:47:19Z")
[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-NOBLE-M12-GTO-3R-LIKE-M400-AND-SUPERCHARGED-LOTUS-/270703488862?pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks&hash=item3f072f6f5e#h](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-NOBLE-M12-GTO-3R-LIKE-M400-AND-SUPERCHARGED-LOTUS-/270703488862?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f072f6f5e#h) ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/2 "2011-02-21T15:44:32Z")
lol @ san dimas ![http://s.costumzee.com/users/Lana417-3162-full.gif](http://s.costumzee.com/users/Lana417-3162-full.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/3 "2011-02-21T17:09:27Z")
The last time I looked they were about 50% more but it has been a while. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/4 "2011-02-21T17:27:17Z")
That’s funny I was just looking at this exact car yesterday (while bored and browsing car’s I’ll never own). ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/5 "2011-02-21T18:17:22Z")
I hate it so much. ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/6 "2011-02-21T18:41:30Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > I hate it so much. care to elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/7 "2011-02-21T20:17:05Z")
My opinion is based off seeing one up close and personal at blown euros a few years ago. For the money they could have used something other than a Ford Duratec, The car seemed cheap and gaudy. The build quality was on par with a kit car. Newmans BMW was leaps and bounds better looking in terms of attention to detail. The styling is dated, nothing on this car is appealing to me. Look at the pictures of the wheels and interior. It screams pep boys. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/8 "2011-02-21T21:06:33Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > My opinion is based off seeing one up close and personal at blown euros a few years ago. For the money they could have used something other than a Ford Duratec, The car seemed cheap and gaudy. The build quality was on par with a kit car. Newmans BMW was leaps and bounds better looking in terms of attention to detail. The styling is dated, nothing on this car is appealing to me. Look at the pictures of the wheels and interior. It screams pep boys. Agreed 100%. That car does nothing for me. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/9 "2011-02-21T21:16:09Z")
all i see is an mr2 with a body kit. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/10 "2011-02-21T21:51:32Z")
Yeah I’ve never been a fan. Hyundai tail lights… :meh: ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/11 "2011-02-22T04:39:06Z")
Everyone beat me to the bash fest. ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/12 "2011-02-22T05:35:24Z")
While I do certainly appreciate the car for what it is and it’s capabilities, the interior is seriously ricey, and horrific on many levels…as far as fit and finish…ehh…I saw one up close too, at Carlisle, of all places, many years ago… ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/13 "2011-02-22T05:48:22Z")
+1 on the don’t like. Get an ariel atom if you want to blow 50k on something impractical ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/14 "2011-02-22T06:36:15Z")
The Atom is awesome… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/15 "2011-02-22T08:18:07Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > The Atom is awesome… yup. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/16 "2011-02-22T08:24:48Z")
Atom is awesome on non-US streets, correct? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/17 "2011-02-22T08:39:34Z")
There are street-legal atom’s roaming US streets. They are delivered to the US in parts, so you can technically register it as home-built. It’s probably a major hassle, but you can find used ones already titled that probably make it a whole lot easier. I think they sell in the low-mid 50s ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/18 "2011-02-22T09:57:57Z")
I’d rock it minus the spoiler and wheels. Interior does look very kit car like. The rear actually reminds me kind of like a saleen s281 with the longer spoiler off of the trunk lid. For the money though, I’d rather build the factory five car. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/19 "2011-02-22T11:29:57Z")
I’ve seen a couple of them in person, I always liked them. One of the instructors for the SCDA has one and it seems to work pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376/20 "2011-02-22T14:58:11Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > My opinion is based off seeing one up close and personal at blown euros a few years ago. For the money they could have used something other than a Ford Duratec, The car seemed cheap and gaudy. The build quality was on par with a kit car. Newmans BMW was leaps and bounds better looking in terms of attention to detail. The styling is dated, nothing on this car is appealing to me. Look at the pictures of the wheels and interior. It screams pep boys. I always did wonder what made them choose that engine. Its a decent engine but there is nothing about it that makes it special or unique. maybe they got them stupid cheap being a high production engine with a good reliability track record. I still think it is a neat car but it is not one I desire myself. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m12-gto-3r-i-thought-these-were-more/209376.md?page=2)