# M3 guys....Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 19, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939 "2008-05-19T20:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/161 "2008-06-03T19:09:53Z")
> [@30r\_logik](#): > > woah woah woah, you said before you will be able to cut 1.6-1.7 60ft on street tires in another thread. > > i trapped 105 sooo that means i’m 12 sec too? sorry bud…I said I could get 1.8-1.9 60’s…however im not experienced enough at driving standard to do that on street tires. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/162 "2008-06-03T19:10:02Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Joeys motor is also completely built and the car is geared for the 1/4 :lol Let me get this straight. The stock LS1 isn’t a LS1 and had a 125SHOT and gears? Must have some special package. :confused ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/163 "2008-06-03T19:10:35Z")
its not even an ls1!!! ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/164 "2008-06-03T19:11:01Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > sorry bud…I said I could get 1.8-1.9 60’s…however im not experienced enough at driving standard to do that on street tires. i feel ya :sad ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/165 "2008-06-03T19:11:25Z")
iirc it is a 350 bored to 366 w/ all internals, cams, high stall tc, gears and he was spraying a 125 shot ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/166 "2008-06-03T19:12:13Z")
Soo much fail in one thread. :lol ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/167 "2008-06-03T19:12:29Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Sorry Pete, come back when you’re trapping 106 :angry2 :angry2 :angry2 :angry2 i’ll try once more when i get the mounts that i still didn’t order :wtf i should be able to get a 106 outta her with a so so launch on 15 psi ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/168 "2008-06-03T19:12:48Z")
stop bench racing PETE ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/169 "2008-06-03T19:13:07Z")
> [@30r\_logik](#): > > :angry2 :angry2 :angry2 :angry2 > > i’ll try once more when i get the mounts that i still didn’t order :wtf > > i should be able to get a 106 outta her with a so so launch on 15 psi 106 is 12s territory with traction typically. I went 12.89 @ 106 with a 1.82 60’ many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/170 "2008-06-03T19:13:54Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Soo much fail in one thread. :lol ```auto ``` No failing at all LS1\> any other motor fully built with nitrous ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/171 "2008-06-03T19:14:51Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > stop bench racing PETE :runaway if i had drag radials and wayyyy more practice at launching and an intercooler i think it would be pretty neat to hit 12’s just running off the w/g. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/172 "2008-06-03T19:15:40Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > ```auto > > ``` > > No failing at all > LS1\> any other motor fully built with nitrous Fail = using non-LS1 cars with nitrous/cam/gears/other mods in a stock LS1 conversation Are LS1 even LS1 after they are built? I say that with the assumption it’s not stock displacement? ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/173 "2008-06-03T19:18:05Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Fail = using non-LS1 cars with nitrous/cam/gears/other mods in a stock LS1 conversation > > Are LS1 even LS1 after they are built? I say that with the assumption it’s not stock displacement? LS means aluminum series motors… My motor has a aluminum block and heads…building them up, boring them out etc. does NOT take away the LSx factor…unless you switch to a Iron block like what Jammer did. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/174 "2008-06-03T19:20:36Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > LS means aluminum series motors… > > My motor has a aluminum block and heads…building them up, boring them out etc. does NOT take away the LSx factor…unless you switch to a Iron block like what Jammer did. I am ify about it. I mean, if you start replacing ALL the INTERNALS, it’s not really a LS1 anything. The same goes for my motor any motor for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/175 "2008-06-03T19:21:54Z")
lsx is a different style of engine, the way everything is configured is different from anyother small block, whether it be a 346 or a 454, its still an ls based engine ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/176 "2008-06-03T19:23:05Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I am ify about it. I mean, if you start replacing ALL the INTERNALS, it’s not really a LS1 anything. The same goes for my motor any motor for that matter. how do you figure?? As long as you dont replace the block, its still a LS motor? its like taking a LS honda motor and building internals on it and putting a Vtech head on it…its still a LS motor, is it not? I mean, your not gonna call it a K20 from different internals and boring it out to a 2.0 theirs the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6 and LS7…All have different internals, but the same block…there for, they stay a LSx motor. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/177 "2008-06-03T19:25:34Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > how do you figure?? As long as you dont replace the block, its still a LS motor? > > its like taking a LS honda motor and building internals on it and putting a Vtech head on it…its still a LS motor, is it not? > > theirs the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6 and LS7…All have different internals, but the same block…there for, they stay a LSx motor. It’s personal preference and I am on the fence to be honest. Not sure how I feel about block A with different compression/bore/rings/crank/etc… There must be a point where just the shell is block A and it’s not really Block A anymore. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/178 "2008-06-03T19:26:39Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > how do you figure?? As long as you dont replace the block, its still a LS motor? > > its like taking a LS honda motor and building internals on it and putting a Vtech head on it…its still a LS motor, is it not? > > theirs the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6 and LS7…All have different internals, but the same block…there for, they stay a LSx motor. its all an lsx because all parts a interchangle, the block is the came, it just has a different bore. If i bored out a small block i wouldnt call it something else other than a small block. If i put bigger turbos on a vr4, its still a twin turbo. Its all just lingo ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/179 "2008-06-03T19:27:47Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > It’s personal preference and I am on the fence to be honest. Not sure how I feel about block A with different compression/bore/rings/crank/etc… There must be a point where just the shell is block A and it’s not really Block A anymore. yah… for example… if you take a 2jz-gte and build the internals…its still a 2jz…all the same factor. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939/180 "2008-06-03T19:31:54Z")
well, if you do out a k20 to like a bore 4.76 x 16.653 stroke it ends up as a k26 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/m3-guys-question/236939.md?page=10)