# mad jdm suby spec c fire
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [February 9, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961 "2009-02-09T15:27:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/21 "2009-02-09T16:57:43Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/13819/38):
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> You also made 306hp at 24psi :rofl
> yea, sucks huh
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> I guess it depends on where the maf is, before or after turbo, or if it’s even using one. I know you can get rid of it with some SEM systems.
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> you need to do more research as the info you posted is wrong
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> I’m guessing that car you posted has some sort of SEM.
> nope, stock me9 ecu WITH A MAF on an mk5 gti
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> they don’t make mafless files for them yet
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> i think youve mistaken this concept with a BOV/ Diverter Valve(recirculating)
read what i wrote in red
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/22 "2009-02-09T17:03:19Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/13819/38):
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> You also made 306hp at 24psi :rofl
still more than you make right?
thought so, shut up.
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/13819/38):
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> I guess it depends on where the maf is, before or after turbo, or if it’s even using one. I know you can get rid of it with some SEM systems.
i can get rid of my maf on a standard ECU. its magical
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/23 "2009-02-09T17:04:24Z")
> [@tdi\_logik"](#):
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> read what i wrote in red
I read what you wrote in red. Don’t get a big dick :lol
“Dumping your shit to the ground” is letting metered air out of the system. I admit I don’t know what’s up with those catch can but I see those setup’s on Honda’s too. Not everyone is right all the time. :lol
Somebody quote this so I am never taken seriously.
I know nothing about cars.
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### Author:  [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/24 "2009-02-09T17:04:41Z")
chuck, pete’s right here. you need the breather on the catch can. without it, the crankcase won’t properly vent.
whats the difference anyway? its not like the pcv system caused the fire.
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/25 "2009-02-09T17:06:19Z")
> [@5th gear trouble](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5th-gear-trouble/13724/9):
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> I read what you wrote in red. Don’t get a big dick :lol
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> “Dumping your shit to the ground” is letting metered air out of the system. I admit I don’t know what’s up with those catch can but I see those setup’s on Honda’s too. Not everyone is right all the time. :lol
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> Somebody quote this so I am never taken seriously.
>
> I know nothing about cars.
crankcase pressure is not metered air.
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/26 "2009-02-09T17:07:46Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/13819/42):
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> chuck, pete’s right here. you need the breather on the catch can. without it, the crankcase won’t properly vent.
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> whats the difference anyway? its not like the pcv system caused the fire.
The catch can on that Suby is venting both the crankcase and pcv system. They both should have their own cans. Boost is going where it shouldn’t. That;s all I’m trying to say. :lol
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/27 "2009-02-09T17:08:51Z")
> [@Need help(speeding ticket)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-speeding-ticket/13771/45):
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> crankcase pressure is not metered air.
Ok are we talking about crankcase, pcv system, or blow by here? I’m talking about all this.
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### Author:  [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/28 "2009-02-09T17:10:28Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/13819/38):
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> You also made 306hp at 24psi :rofl
>
> I guess it depends on where the maf is, before or after turbo, or if it’s even using one. I know you can get rid of it with some SEM systems.
>
> I’m guessing that car you posted has some sort of SEM.
> [@Need help(speeding ticket)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-speeding-ticket/13771/45):
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> crankcase pressure is not metered air.
exactly.
oh and for my 306hp on 24 psi, i achieeved 330lb ft or torque, once peak torque hit power plummited as the ecu pulled back timing due to excessive iat’s.
for all the 1.8t’s ive seen dyno that put down 330lb ft or torque, there hp was 360+.
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/29 "2009-02-09T17:11:06Z")
Refer to my sig.
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/30 "2009-02-09T17:11:15Z")
> [@Need help(speeding ticket)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-speeding-ticket/13771/46):
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> Ok are we talking about crankcase, pcv system, or blow by here? I’m talking about all this.
thats the same thing, 3 different names.
your pcv system controls the crankcase pressure. and that pressure is a result of cylinder blow by
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/31 "2009-02-09T17:12:42Z")
> [@WTB: Beer?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-beer/13824/10):
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> exactly.
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> oh and for my 306hp on 24 psi, i achieeved 330lb ft or torque, once peak torque hit power plummited as the ecu pulled back timing due to excessive iat’s.
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> for all the 1.8t’s ive seen dyno that put down 330lb ft or torque, there hp was 360+.
we’ll see what my hoopty can do.
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### Author:  [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/32 "2009-02-09T17:12:54Z")
> [@Need help(speeding ticket)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-speeding-ticket/13771/46):
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> Ok are we talking about crankcase, pcv system, or blow by here? I’m talking about all this.
crankcase and pcv are the same thing pretty much
factory crankcase/pcv systmems vent back into the intake.
mine doesn’t, it vents right to the ground, no catch can, just two hoses tee’d into one.
onbe from the oil filter breather housing or w/e it is and one from my valve-cover.
a catchcan collects blowby.
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/33 "2009-02-09T17:14:17Z")
> [@6/25 ECCN Autox](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/6-25-eccn-autox/13497/53):
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> crankcase and pcv are the same thing pretty much
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> factory crankcase/pcv systmems vent back into the intake.
>
> mine doesn’t, it vents right to the ground, no catch can, just two hoses tee’d into one.
>
> onbe from the oil filter breather housing or w/e it is and one from my valve-cover.
>
> a catchcan collects blowby.
you really should collect the oil/water vapor. if you go to lvd youre oiling down the track the whole pass.
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### Author:  [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/34 "2009-02-09T17:14:28Z")
> [@callout: mid 14 sec cars.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mid-14-sec-cars/13801/16):
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> we’ll see what my hoopty can do.
with a big 600hp core i wouldn’t doubt 375+ on pump and more with some sem goodness and big port head and cat3652’s
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### Author:  [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/35 "2009-02-09T17:14:35Z")
> [@cazwrx187"](#):
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> If I had ms paint I would try to circle some stuff for you.
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> The oil catch can is T’d into both the PCV system and the crank case. That is sending boost where it shouldn’t be. STi’s need a dual can setup.
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> The oil catch can has a breather filter on it when everything should be leak free on a turbo car.
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> I have no idea what that red wire is on the right side of the car. It appears to be twisted together and then wrapped with tape. It also looks to be going into the fuse box. :ohnoes
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> I have no idea what that white hose is that goes across the engine bay (meth?)
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> I guess the battery was relocated and I don’t know what’s in it’s place besides the external reservoir for the JRZ’s (more meth stuff?)
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> It doesn’t look like any Subaru engine bay I’ve ever seen. There is weird stuff going on there.
first of all… YOU’RE A FUCKING MORON.
now, down to business. the “red wires” you see tied in over by the fuse panel appear to be leading to what would APPEAR to be nitrous solenoids. this would give a logical conclusion as to what the whitish line is leading up by the wiper cowl.
next… subaru’s DO NOT need a dual vent catch can system. wherever you read/learned that information… you should tell them to keep it. its a load of horseshit.
NEXT, the car appears to have aftermarket fuel rails. this couldnt have contributed to the fire in any way if they were improperly installed now could they? nah, didnt think so.
and just for reference… if you look RIGHT close, this is a cable throttle car… sti’s werent made in a cable throttle. this engine has been swapped in there. now… all the hoses and wiring looks in order to me, but everything looked hunkey-dorey under my hood the night she went poof too. my moneys on power steering line failure… yet again. fuck subaru’s, fuck ej motors and fuck your ignorant subaru owning retarded ass.
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### Author:  [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/36 "2009-02-09T17:15:00Z")
> [@6/25 ECCN Autox](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/6-25-eccn-autox/13497/53):
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> crankcase and pcv are the same thing pretty much
>
> factory crankcase/pcv systmems vent back into the intake.
>
> mine doesn’t, it vents right to the ground, no catch can, just two hoses tee’d into one.
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> onbe from the oil filter breather housing or w/e it is and one from my valve-cover.
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> a catchcan collects blowby.
quoted for truth.
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### Author:  [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/37 "2009-02-09T17:16:09Z")
> [@VH45DE in an s13 .... vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vh45de-in-an-s13-vid/13804/18):
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> you really should collect the oil/water vapor. if you go to lvd youre oiling down the track the whole pass.
yea, i hear you, it was an easy **cheap** way to stop the the blue smoke out the tailpipe for the time being.
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/38 "2009-02-09T17:16:40Z")
> [@Auto0utcast"](#):
>
> first of all… YOU’RE A FUCKING MORON.
> now, down to business. the “red wires” you see tied in over by the fuse panel appear to be leading to what would APPEAR to be nitrous solenoids. this would give a logical conclusion as to what the whitish line is leading up by the wiper cowl.
> next… subaru’s DO NOT need a dual vent catch can system. wherever you read/learned that information… you should tell them to keep it. its a load of horseshit.
> NEXT, the car appears to have aftermarket fuel rails. this couldnt have contributed to the fire in any way if they were improperly installed now could they? nah, didnt think so.
> and just for reference… if you look RIGHT close, this is a cable throttle car… sti’s werent made in a cable throttle. this engine has been swapped in there. now… all the hoses and wiring looks in order to me, but everything looked hunkey-dorey under my hood the night she went poof too. my moneys on power steering line failure… yet again. fuck subaru’s, fuck ej motors and fuck your ignorant subaru owning retarded ass.
with tragedy comes wisdom?
> [@Need help(speeding ticket)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-speeding-ticket/13771/48):
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> with a big 600hp core i wouldn’t doubt 375+ on pump and more with some sem goodness and big port head and cat3652’s
stock head. all day long.
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/39 "2009-02-09T17:17:38Z")
> [@tdi\_logik"](#):
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> yea, i hear you, it was an easy **cheap** way to stop the the blue smoke out the tailpipe.
im getting a sweet new jam made up… almost bought the FFE, but it wont fit with my inlet thats being made
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### Author:  [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-jdm-suby-spec-c-fire/241961/40 "2009-02-09T17:17:54Z")
> [@justa4door needs a vacuum.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/justa4door-needs-a-vacuum/13796/32):
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> The catch can on that Suby is venting both the crankcase and pcv system. They both should have their own cans. Boost is going where it shouldn’t. That;s all I’m trying to say. :lol
its the same system. i think you are confused.
if you plug the crankcase vent aka pcv, bad things will happen.
you are confusing boost pressure with blow-by.
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