# Mafia Machinez: Big Body discussion ITT.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [November 25, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476 "2011-11-25T16:14:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/1 "2011-11-25T16:14:21Z")

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So as I have brought up in a previous thread many moons ago - the affordability of larger luxury sedans becomes more and more within our reach. I for one, love large, obnoxious, completely unnecessary sedans, with reclining rear foot-rests, curtains, refrigerators, etc.

So what do you think would be a more reliable, less expensive to maintain vehicle other than the Lexus LS460L (which is probably the most reliable)?

-2006+ Audi S8: 5.2L V10 sounds amazing but the Lamborghini based engine scares me.  
-Maserati Quattroporte: Something tells me it would need major service every 10K miles…or less.  
-Jaguar XJR: Meh…  
Mercedes Benz S65 AMG: Twin Turbz V12  
-Mercedes Benz S600 coupe/sedan: More 5.5L Twin turbz V12 action  
-BMW 760Li: V12

Thoughts/opinions on others? Obviously these aren’t racecars and wouldn’t be driven like one lol.

I don’t even…that sound…

[youtu.be/VtLVAY5Mdrg](https://youtu.be/VtLVAY5Mdrg)

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**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/2 "2011-11-25T16:31:59Z")

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car does sound sweet, but what happens when there is an electronic problem with one of the umtine billion gizmos? Car must have miles of wire and a shit ton of modules, those 2 facts would keep me from owning one.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/3 "2011-11-25T16:38:22Z")

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> [@FS: 2002 RSX SSM 5spd](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2002-rsx-ssm-5spd/36465/56):
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> car does sound sweet, but what happens when there is an electronic problem with one of the umtine billion gizmos? Car must have miles of wire and a shit ton of modules, those 2 facts would keep me from owning one.

Thats what I’m kinda thinking.  
The hidden electrical gremlins in most Euro cars scare the fuck out of me.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/4 "2011-11-25T16:40:08Z")

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2001.5 S8, /thread

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**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/5 "2011-11-25T16:41:25Z")

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You know what wagon doesn’t have a bunch of electrical shit and also has the luxury of a porta-potty?

This guy.  
 ![http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/07/100_0076.jpg](http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/07/100_0076.jpg)

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**Author:** ![DRock518](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drock518/32/6363_2.png) [@DRock518](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DRock518)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/6 "2011-11-25T17:13:50Z")

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One of the benz’s would be my pick. Probably the S65

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/7 "2011-11-25T17:37:04Z")

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![http://images.carlotbot.com/pictures/37830217.jpg](http://images.carlotbot.com/pictures/37830217.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/8 "2011-11-25T17:49:22Z")

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Disregard above post…

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/9 "2011-11-25T17:52:50Z")

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Have you driven one? Fucking living room on wheels with an awesome comfortable ride.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/10 "2011-11-25T18:05:04Z")

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760li or ls460l.

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**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/11 "2011-11-25T18:32:31Z")

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PJB is like 87 years old

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/12 "2011-11-25T18:42:23Z")

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> [@Wine Tasting @ The Irishman (on main near Evans) 4/15/08 8pm](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wine-tasting-the-irishman-on-main-near-evans-4-15-08-8pm/46835/4):
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> You know what wagon doesn’t have a bunch of electrical shit and also has the luxury of a porta-potty?
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> This guy.

i thought you had a red wagon?

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**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/13 "2011-11-25T18:45:46Z")

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> [@Mr/Ms Buffalo Bodybuilding/Figure Pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mr-ms-buffalo-bodybuilding-figure-pics/46737/80):
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> i thought you had a red wagon?

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**Author:** ![Yetti\_VR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yetti_vr/32/6357_2.png) [@Yetti\_VR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Yetti_VR)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/14 "2011-11-25T19:48:36Z")

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I also was told you had a red wagon

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/15 "2011-11-25T20:03:54Z")

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> [@STM Update: 98 GSX Build, Ricer Evo and Shop Pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stm-update-98-gsx-build-ricer-evo-and-shop-pics/45299/17):
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> I also was told you had a red wagon

so why is your name redwgn?

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**Author:** ![vorsprung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f07891/32.png) [@vorsprung](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vorsprung)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/16 "2011-11-25T20:20:36Z")

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I may be a little biased…

 ![http://www.stanceworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IMG_7556.jpg](http://www.stanceworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IMG_7556.jpg)

 ![http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/eon636/5960643420_152cb8bdda_o.jpg](http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/eon636/5960643420_152cb8bdda_o.jpg)

 ![http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/eon636/5960630594_010dd5ee9d_o.jpg](http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/eon636/5960630594_010dd5ee9d_o.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/17 "2011-11-25T20:27:04Z")

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My pick is:

Lexus LS \> Infiniti M (my car is kind of basic and still has a load of features - but the fully loaded ones come with rear reclining seats, rear cooled seats, etc. so it is definitely in this class of car IMO but it’s a newer brand who’s still building it’s reputuation, etc.) \> Audi A8 \> BMW 7-Series \> Benz \> Panamera \> Maserati \> \*

The above is based on overall value, etc.

Based on looks only:

LS \> A8 \> 7-Series \> new M-series \> \*

I am a HUGE fan of the new LS460’s…definitely hope to own one after the M or a few years later. Such an awesome car. Bottom line, to me, is anything Japanese \> anyone else. German/Euro cars are more expensive to maintain, tend to not be as reliable, and usually cost more than their Japanese counterparts. I’ll probably always buy Japanese.

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**Author:** ![Dread](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dread/32/6544_2.png) [@Dread](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dread)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/18 "2011-11-25T21:50:34Z")

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> [@Wine Tasting @ The Irishman (on main near Evans) 4/15/08 8pm](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wine-tasting-the-irishman-on-main-near-evans-4-15-08-8pm/46835/4):
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> You know what wagon doesn’t have a bunch of electrical shit and also has the luxury of a porta-potty?
> 
> This guy.

Wtf is that? I thought they only came in red

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**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/19 "2011-11-25T22:24:43Z")

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If you love the 200 (which I know you do) you’ll love the A8/S8 which is many moons newer. Buy Audi Jim! Yes, I’m biased.

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mafia-machinez-big-body-discussion-itt/261476/20 "2011-11-26T04:59:42Z")

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and it’s certified!

[http://www.langanaudieast.com/certified/Audi/2006-Audi-A8-ff923c030a0d048e0013aa4e44e28bf7.htm](http://www.langanaudieast.com/certified/Audi/2006-Audi-A8-ff923c030a0d048e0013aa4e44e28bf7.htm)

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