# Man down!  Did good this time (carnage).

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 12, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033 "2009-04-12T17:58:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/21 "2009-04-12T20:21:49Z")

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> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> sticking with 5v?

for sure.

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**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/22 "2009-04-12T20:26:07Z")

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I never knew VW made 5v heads. Cool stuff.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/23 "2009-04-12T20:35:57Z")

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Yikes

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**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/24 "2009-04-12T23:30:51Z")

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> [@greenbull](#):
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> yikes
> 
> mmmm vavle soup

I won’t lie, that photo made me LOL despite feeling really bad for you

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**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/25 "2009-04-12T23:38:39Z")

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Damn, thats some quality destruction!

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/26 "2009-04-13T04:02:47Z")

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I bet this is related to it being a VW :lol:

Sucks…though just build it bigger/better :tup:

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/27 "2009-04-13T04:23:41Z")

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how much power did this thing make?

estimated 1/4?

sorry for the loss, it got beat up pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/28 "2009-04-13T05:45:29Z")

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last year it did ~500whp or so and did an 11.3@133, this year was 651whp and the one time I went to the track my pressure plate died on me so I coudln’t even run.

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**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/29 "2009-04-13T06:15:12Z")

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The carnage is bad enough that it’s hard to say what happened first. Post more pictures of the non mashed plugs. Did you find anything funny external to the engine as you took the car apart?

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/30 "2009-04-13T06:17:42Z")

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> [@Inn-Tune](#):
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> The carnage is bad enough that it’s hard to say what happened first. Post more pictures of the non mashed plugs. Did you find anything funny external to the engine as you took the car apart?

Nah, nothing outisde, but when _whatever_ hit first, it splintered everywhere as when I pulled the intake manifold off it sounded like a maraca.

As for the plugs, I’ll see if I still have them. The plug pulling happened on the side of the road in jersey. Not sure if I left them with the car or not.

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**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/31 "2009-04-13T07:18:38Z")

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Wow that’s some carnage. Good luck with the rebuild.

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**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/32 "2009-04-13T07:58:19Z")

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Yeesh looks like quite the explosion.

Hope it turns out better for next year.

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**Author:** ![Devioustsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/devioustsi/32/7406_2.png) [@Devioustsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Devioustsi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/33 "2009-04-13T08:09:22Z")

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Yikes, at least the turbo is fine… that was the first thing I was thinking of. It’s shitty enough to have to build it all over but when you have to replace external parts because of internal failure it sucks that much more. That was the main reason I didn’t push my car any harder last year. I did not want to buy another turbo.

What valvetrain did you have?

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/34 "2009-04-13T10:40:07Z")

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> [@Haenszel](#):
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> for sure.

how much better is the flow over the earlier 4v heads and which is more reliable. just curious.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/35 "2009-04-13T11:58:10Z")

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> [@Devioustsi](#):
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> What valvetrain did you have?

it was supertech Ti Retainers, dual springs, and inconel single keeper exh valves.

> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> how much better is the flow over the earlier 4v heads and which is more reliable. just curious.
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> Brian

They flow a bit more than teh 16v, but its still not like a honda head. haha. Reliability… c’mon… both are made by VW.

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/36 "2009-04-13T17:30:02Z")

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Fatality ☹

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/37 "2009-04-13T17:47:54Z")

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> [@neonglh](#):
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> Fatality ☹

![http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_q3S5z4wMuEE/SN0MS0HnUNI/AAAAAAAAACc/b89polKARA4/s400/fatality.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/6/d6420262fe3859171f80548862ef3cc04371c5f9.png)

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/38 "2009-04-13T17:49:56Z")

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> [@Bigairskier1580](#):
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> ![http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_q3S5z4wMuEE/SN0MS0HnUNI/AAAAAAAAACc/b89polKARA4/s400/fatality.png](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_q3S5z4wMuEE/SN0MS0HnUNI/AAAAAAAAACc/b89polKARA4/s400/fatality.png)

Baraka never loses!

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/39 "2009-04-13T19:40:40Z")

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> [@Haenszel](#):
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> haha. Reliability… c’mon… both are made by VW.

lol i suppose 🙂

my head doesnt allow enough flow to rev high enough that stuff breaks… the high velocity air breaks everything else in the driveline with torque though lol.

brian

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**Author:** ![PsngrSeatsR4Boys](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psngrseatsr4boys/32/3078_2.png) [@PsngrSeatsR4Boys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PsngrSeatsR4Boys)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-down-did-good-this-time-carnage/66033/40 "2009-04-13T19:46:50Z")

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She’ll live again, just like a cat. How many lives is this motor on now?

What are your plans for your evo? 😛

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