# Man opens fire in Colorado movie theater **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 20, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451 "2012-07-20T11:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/141 "2012-07-24T09:45:53Z")
Guess who paid for the shooter’s weapons and gear? Taxpayers. [http://www.cnn.com/video/data/3.0/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn/index.xml#/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn](http://www.cnn.com/video/data/3.0/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn/index.xml#/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn) He was receiving $2,600 a month from the National Institute of Health as a grant for research, which is funded by tax payers. Maybe the anti-gunners will now blame taxes for Holmes’ ability to buy all of that evil! ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/142 "2012-07-24T10:10:21Z")
> [@'55 Chevy LT1/4L60E project](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/55-chevy-lt1-4l60e-project/47642/33): > > Guess who paid for the shooter’s weapons and gear? > > Taxpayers. > > [http://www.cnn.com/video/data/3.0/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn/index.xml#/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn](http://www.cnn.com/video/data/3.0/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn/index.xml#/video/us/2012/07/23/tsr-sylvester-holmes-and-nih.cnn) > > He was receiving $2,600 a month from the National Institute of Health as a grant for research, which is funded by tax payers. > > Maybe the anti-gunners will now blame taxes for Holmes’ ability to buy all of that evil! Your link is broken. And what makes you think it’s the Taxpayers? He had iirc ~26K student loan he could have used on anything and I’m sure he had a great credit history. He wouldnt be the first person in the world buying guns on credit, plus not like he was ever planning on paying it off… ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/143 "2012-07-24T11:48:22Z")
Interesting… :facepalm > **[‘Gangster Squad’ Theater Shooting Scene To Be Cut | TIME.com](http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/24/gangster-squad-theater-shooting-scene-to-be-cut/)** > > Warner Bros. has decided the scene would come too soon after the Colorado shootings. In order to reshoot parts of the film, they are postponing the release date. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/144 "2012-07-24T12:22:33Z")
Can you blame them? The theater in Colorado and Warner Bros are being sued already. ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/145 "2012-07-24T12:23:52Z")
Pussification of America. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/146 "2012-07-24T12:34:46Z")
> [@lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol/50221/31): > > Pussification of America. . ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/147 "2012-07-24T12:41:12Z")
Will the theater scene from Inglorious Bastards be removed from TV broadcasts now? ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/148 "2012-07-24T12:52:53Z")
> [@WOOT of the day!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/woot-of-the-day/46135/83): > > What the actual fuck are you talking about?? > > Comparing little billy driving like an asshole because he made up his mind is IN NO WAY compared to a dude walking into a movie theatre and opening fire on innocent people. > > Little billy didn’t make a conscious decision to kill people. It may happen inadvertently…but was not the reason for driving like an asshole. > > Colorado shooter walked into theatre with full intentions of laying people out…not by accident…(insert guess here…maybe infamy?). > > Just stop. > > There is no rhyme or reason when a nut job decides its ok to pray and spray with an “AK” into a bunch of innocent people, NONE OF US will be able to fathom what went through his mind. > > The back and forth over why he did it is useless. There are many meaningful conversations to be had over such an incident. > > Maybe he wanted to make sure Batman really died this time. But on the way to the concession stand they made an announcement THAT THEY RAN OUT OF POPCORN. > > :popcorn shooter: see bellow > [@GD3Skier"](#): > > I think you missed his point. It’s not about killing its about knowingly making a decision that the outside world would view as “insane” when you consciously understood what you were doing. Thank you for seeing past the end of your nose. Point was arguing the fact that I ASSUME this bastard had half a clue what he was doing, aka in my book not insane. If I tell you to shut the fuck up and go away now that you attacked my reply, I have a reason and motivation to take it upon myself to tell you to hit the road. (logical) Now if you signed up for the first time and said “Oh hi, how are you I am new” and then told you to shut the fuck up out of the blue… there isnt much logic behind that to warrant the attack. see what I am getting at. > [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/49958/32): > > I work in a mental rehabilitation hospital, so yes, I have experience in dealing with people with a wide range of ailments. You are missing the point. Psychosis does not care if you are educated, mentally disabled, average, rich, or poor. It can come at anytime for a number of reasons to any person. **A person that is psychotic has no logic, that does not mean they cant make decisions.** But WHY they make that decision is usually not known, even to them. You are talking about someones mind that at some point, _broke down. He is no longer the same person_. This entire event revolved around the mass killing of innocent people with what excuse for motivation. He had no LOGICAL excuse for going into that theater and killing random people for no reason. That by definition sets him up for an insanity plea. And again ill say, none of his actions can be considered logical and no matter what you or anyone else says, youll forever be assuming why he did what he did, he may not even know. > > Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 **No logic and the inability make decissions is called brain dead in my book. Anyone that can do what he did tells me this bastard had a damn good idea of what he was doing in his head (AKA USING LOCIC… DURRR OPEN DOOR, POINT AND SHOOOOT) when he made the decission to do so.** _Broke down, no longer the same person. So canabilistic tribes in east bumfuck from thousands of years ago to present that kill people and eat them are also broken down??? No, they are using logic their society taught them as a basis for their actions. Yet, some crazy fucker in this country is found killing and eating people is doing the same thing, no thats not society thats going fucking nuts. I am NOT compairing the 2 events here, not at all… I am stating that two of the SAME ACTIONS can be held accountable two totally different ways. Just becaue one group of people see the other side of the story differently doesnt mean someone is “broken”. Broken is broken, broken is and should NOT be an opinion at all._ And the part that pisses me off the most is the red stuff. Insainty plea is there to keep MENTALLY INOCENT people somewhat out of hot water, and most seek treatment after they are dealt with in court. 99% of the people here on Shift dont have any arrests, no mental cases on file, are clean as a wistle… just like this dude aparantly is. YET, if one of us decided to run people over at the lot in a monster truck your saying they should be set up for an insainty plea??? Thats cool, my sister never got a speeding ticket, so the first one she gets she should just say she lost her mind for a minute and get off??? get the fuck outa here. Not to mention if this dumb bastard gets off on insanity, all the little copy cat bitches watching will have the flood gates of opertunity to do what they want, only to assume they will also spend some time in a padded room. I am all for people living a fair life. If someone’s brain actually comes apart and one day they do something on a small scale… sure give the insainty card a shot and try to help them. BUT, big scale shit like this guy, fucking hang um. Sure you might hang a few actuall nut jobs, but I would rather see a few “inocent” people get “wrongfully” punished for big ass mistakes in society then someone like this guy walk. ---
**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/149 "2012-07-24T13:10:48Z")
Omg, KK posts never cease to amaze me. **TL;DR** ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/150 "2012-07-24T13:25:35Z")
LOLOLOL. We can argue about it all day, we all know hes getting a life sentence, a Wiki page, and there will be a movie made about him. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/151 "2012-07-24T13:31:10Z")
> [@WOOT of the day!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/woot-of-the-day/46135/92): > > Omg, KK posts never cease to amaze me. > > **TL;DR** Seriously it takes about 3 minutes to read my rants. you spend 5 times that trying to find the best video to fap to on redtube. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/152 "2012-07-24T13:43:50Z")
> [@Gear Oil](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gear-oil/50232/7): > > Seriously it takes about 3 minutes to read my rants. > > you spend 5 times that trying to find the best video to fap to on redtube. :rofl FUCK REDTUBE. I have fake passwords to Brazzers, mad HD pr0n… ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/153 "2012-07-24T14:05:15Z")
> [@FS: 1979 Honda CB650 $1200](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1979-honda-cb650-1200/48757/12): > > Your link is broken. > > And what makes you think it’s the Taxpayers? > > He had iirc ~26K student loan he could have used on anything and I’m sure he had a great credit history. He wouldnt be the first person in the world buying guns on credit, plus not like he was ever planning on paying it off… > **[Video News - CNN](https://www.cnn.com/videos)** > > Watch breaking news videos, viral videos and original video clips on CNN.com. Although it can’t be proven directly that tax payers did/did not pay for his gear, he received a $26k research grant (not a loan), and since receiving the grant, that is when the orders were made for ammunition, “tactical gear”, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/154 "2012-07-24T14:05:38Z")
> [@Get ready for red light cameras in Buffalo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/get-ready-for-red-light-cameras-in-buffalo/50219/64): > > FUCK REDTUBE. I have fake passwords to Brazzers, mad HD pr0n… Send me passwords plz. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/155 "2012-07-24T14:47:14Z")
> [@Gear Oil](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gear-oil/50232/7): > > Seriously it takes about 3 minutes to read my rants. > > you spend 5 times that trying to find the best video to fap to on redtube. :rofl Society defines whats normal and whats not. And you are telling me its normal for a guy that otherwise has lived a normal, meaningful existance to go into a movie theater and kill dozens of innocent people with NO motive other than to just do it? If thats not insane then I dont know what is. You are krazy to think thats behavior of a normal, sane human being. I want to see him fry just as much as anyone else, I just cant fathom how some of you guys think this guy was in a sane state of mind. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/156 "2012-07-24T17:45:32Z")
Not arguing with you, but playing devils advocate. Many “regular” people will think that drag racing on public streets and going over 100mph is “crazy/insane”. Many people think that those flying squirrel suits are “nuts”. Granted those things aren’t hurting others which is why nobody really raises an eye brow, even if those things are “crazy” people will continue to do them because that’s what they want and like to do. Going a step further there are people who enjoy robbing bikes and being a criminal just for the sake of it. Illegal? Yes. Crazy? Kinda. How about all the gang members who are involved in cold blood shootings and murders? To then it’s normal, gives them a rush and they want to do it. I would hardly argue something snapped with them. All I’m saying is, there are plenty of people that would do the same thing in this world if there were no reprocussions. (sp?). They deter most. Every once in a while comes a guy, who doesn’t care for the punishment and just does what he wants. I have a gun fanatic (over 12 guns) coworker who planned a mass shooting as a joke, has a day planned and an area. “Just for one”. Is he sane? Insane? Normal? As long as he doesn’t act on it, nobody will know :ponder Edit: going back further - lynching was normal back in the day, and still happens today by KKK. People will do some crazy shit if they can get away with it Scott free. And if a person has nothing to lose and doesn’t value their own life or future, they are free to act how they want. ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/157 "2012-07-24T18:14:26Z")
> [@Get ready for red light cameras in Buffalo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/get-ready-for-red-light-cameras-in-buffalo/50219/64): > > FUCK REDTUBE. I have fake passwords to Brazzers, mad HD pr0n… Share the wealth bro! So yeah, Bale went and saw the victims too. Weeeeeeeeeeee. I like turtles. ---
**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/158 "2012-07-24T19:58:40Z")
> [@230 year old shipwreck found off the coast...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/230-year-old-shipwreck-found-off-the-coast/50256/5): > > Send me passwords plz. > [@GOOD MORNING EVERYONE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/good-morning-everyone/50259/15): > > Share the wealth bro! > > So yeah, Bale went and saw the victims too. Weeeeeeeeeeee. > > I like turtles. I’ll see what I can do GENTLEMEN. ![http://www.lememe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cat-hair.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/b/ab0164613e5991fbbf8afd2006b19f0cbf4c2e7a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/159 "2012-07-25T09:30:23Z")
> [@Looks like he may have come back too early. V. Tiger Woods out for year.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looks-like-he-may-have-come-back-too-early-v-tiger-woods-out-for-year/50195/19): > > Society defines whats normal and whats not. And you are telling me its normal for a guy that otherwise has lived a normal, meaningful existance to go into a movie theater and kill dozens of innocent people with NO motive other than to just do it? If thats not insane then I dont know what is. > > You are krazy to think thats behavior of a normal, sane human being. > > I want to see him fry just as much as anyone else, I just cant fathom how some of you guys think this guy was in a sane state of mind. > > Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 > [@GOOD MORNING EVERYONE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/good-morning-everyone/50259/14): > > Not arguing with you, but playing devils advocate. > > Many “regular” people will think that drag racing on public streets and going over 100mph is “crazy/insane”. > > Many people think that those flying squirrel suits are “nuts”. > > Granted those things aren’t hurting others which is why nobody really raises an eye brow, even if those things are “crazy” people will continue to do them because that’s what they want and like to do. > > Going a step further there are people who enjoy robbing bikes and being a criminal just for the sake of it. Illegal? Yes. Crazy? Kinda. > > How about all the gang members who are involved in cold blood shootings and murders? To then it’s normal, gives them a rush and they want to do it. I would hardly argue something snapped with them. > > All I’m saying is, there are plenty of people that would do the same thing in this world if there were no reprocussions. (sp?). They deter most. Every once in a while comes a guy, who doesn’t care for the punishment and just does what he wants. > > I have a gun fanatic (over 12 guns) coworker who planned a mass shooting as a joke, has a day planned and an area. “Just for one”. > > Is he sane? Insane? Normal? As long as he doesn’t act on it, nobody will know > > :ponder > > Edit: going back further - lynching was normal back in the day, and still happens today by KKK. People will do some crazy shit if they can get away with it Scott free. And if a person has nothing to lose and doesn’t value their own life or future, they are free to act how they want. Exactly Vlad. Remember “insanity” is mearly a over priced and over thought out hypothisis Dr’s use to put a label over someones actions most people wont agree was “right”. Nobody will know for sure, therefore I really dont give 2 mooses last shits if this guy or anyone in history is in his shoes is or was insane or not. Deed is done, pay the damn price. Like vlad said also it really isnt hard for any “normal” person to fatham up a plan of attack just like this dude. The only thing stopping them from carrying it out is that persons feelings really. The only thing that can be curtain with any of this insainity talk bullshit is if that card is played with a case this big right now… human instinct for the other “krazy fuckers out there” will show a weakness in the system and that might be all it takes to change their feelings and engauge their plan of attack. Just like speeding when you know you have a shot at a parking ticket reduction and no points… you cant tell me when you found out a speeding ticket can disapear from a reduction, that didnt make you push the limits a bit more. SAME SHIT. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/160 "2012-07-25T09:44:36Z")
> [@230 year old shipwreck found off the coast...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/230-year-old-shipwreck-found-off-the-coast/50256/5): > > Send me passwords plz. x2 WTF!!! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451.md?page=9)