# Man opens fire in Colorado movie theater

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**Created:** [July 20, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451 "2012-07-20T11:54:20Z")
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### Author: ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/man-opens-fire-in-colorado-movie-theater/264451/196 "2012-12-12T12:03:54Z")

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> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/1568):
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> You have 2 different offender types out there committing these atrocities.
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> -Suicidal people that want to take people down with them and either turn the gun on themselves or know they will go down in a blaze of “glory”.
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> -People that don’t intend on dying while or after they commit the killings.
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> Gunlaws or lack thereof will never change the first type’s outcome. If you have a will to commit a killing spree like that, there isn’t a way to stop them (other than by accident, some sort of tip off, or what have you). The only course of action left is mitigating the death and damage. Either put guns in good, ethical, law abiding citizens hands and allow them to protect themselves and others, or just hope the offenders gun jams or runs out of ammo. Those are the only two cards you have in your hand to play with if you do away with the right to bear arms.
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> The second type of offender you have at least a chance at STOPPING their actions before it’s too late. They don’t want to die, they just want to kill. They won’t be running into a gun show in Texas anytime soon and try to open fire! They will chance it that none, or very few are armed and willing to fire back, and target those places. Logically the only way to sway their actions are to raise the chances that the offender will face return fire. Sadly its not like they would come out of the wood work and say “Yep, I was going to try and kill a bunch of people, but since there is a good chance that I could be shot at myself because of these “defend yourself gun laws…. I decided against following through with it”. So news, politicians, activists, etc. don’t have much to work with there to fight for their side of the argument.
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> /thread.

+1

I’ve never understood the logic of those that say we need to ban all guns in order to be safe. Reality, as the laws are currently set up, is that many of the bad guys get guns illegally. The recent string of high-profile events where people have gone on a killing spree with legally gotten guns is the exception, not the rule. If you change the laws, so that guns are illegal, the bad guys will still be getting guns. The laws don’t ‘apply’ to them because they could care less. All disarming the public does is strip away the ability of the common person to defend themselves, giving the bad guys an even greater advantage.

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