# Manufacturers do listen... SVT LIVES!!!

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [November 29, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694 "2004-11-29T14:04:30Z")
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### Author: ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/1 "2004-11-29T14:04:30Z")

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After receiving THOUSANDS of petitions of letters from enthusiasts of all vehicle makes and models, Ford has been convinced not to pull the plug on SVT, but to put more money into the project group. Announced today:

Also effective Dec. 1, Hau Thai-Tang will assume the responsibilities of  
Director, Advanced Product Creation and Special Vehicle Team (SVT). In his  
new role, Thai-Tang will be responsible for directing the operations of  
Ford’s Special Vehicle Team and Advanced Product Creation team. Previous to  
his new appointment, Thai-Tang was Chief Nameplate Engineer for the 2005  
Ford Mustang and led the development and launch of the 2001 Mustang GT,  
Mustang Cobra, and Bullitt Mustang GT models. He was the vehicle dynamics  
supervisor and vehicle engineering manager for the 2000 LS, that won Motor  
Trend magazine’s “Car of the Year” award. Thai-Tang’s Ford experience also  
includes an assignment in Germany, as well as working with Ford Racing. He  
joined Ford in 1988 as a Ford College Graduate trainee.

To further strengthen SVT’s role in the company, Thai-Tang will report  
directly to Martens. John Coletti continues as director of the Special  
Vehicle Team and will report to Thai-Tang.

“The appointment of Hau to this role further cements the importance of SVT  
to Ford,” Martens said.

“As Mustang fans now know, Hau and his team did a fabulous job bringing the  
all-new 2005 Mustang to life,” Martens added. “As a youngster, Hau dreamed  
of one day owning a Mustang. Not only did his wildest dreams come true, but  
Hau also brought to life the dreams of Mustang fans everywhere with the  
rebirth of the original Pony Car.”

Now, SVT’s current lineup  
SVT NEWS -

1. Organization changes -

a) John Colletti is running the Ford Racing Products group and is still in charge of the FORD GT.

1. Product Changes -

a) The LIGHTNING - The project is totally dead atleast for now. Here is what happened. The new motor they were building which is a 5.4L made about 600 EHP at the Flywheel as “pullied” from the factory. They kept blowing up lots of Auto Transmissions. So the transmission put the nail in the coffin (for now). They supposedly sunk a ton of money into the overall Lightning development (not just for performance) and the people upstairs looked at the total anticipated sales of the SVT products and came up with less than 1/10 of 1 % of product sales and killed off the Lightning.

b) The COBRA - Let me clarify first. When I refer to the COBRA in this post I am not talking about the Shelby COBRA Coupe. I am talking about the follow on to the TERMINATOR.

## Here is what I know about the COBRA’s configuration -

1. It will not use the V-10 and it will not use the 4.6L either. They decided to use the Engine Development from the new LIGHTNING and the COBRA will have a 5.4L (around 330 cubes) topped off with a Twin Screw Blower.
2. The COBRA will retain a “manual transmission” (6 speed).
3. The IRS Geometry has been re-designed from the Ground up and is also alot “Stronger”. The IRS will come completely pre-assembled as far as the way the overall COBRA will be assembled.
4. The cost has been kept down to around $5,000 more than you paid for your 03 - so again it is a “No Frills” car except that most of the development money was put into the Integrated design of the Engine and the IRS.
5. I was told it will be come out around the middle of 06 for the 2007 model year.
6. The Car will have approximately 485-525bhp  
 ![http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jr551/cobra7.jpg](http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jr551/cobra7.jpg)

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/2 "2004-11-29T14:10:03Z")

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If the people have to send in complaints to save SVT,  
Then SVT should pack up thier shit. :mad:

1. The cost has been kept down to around $5,000 more than you paid for your 03 - so again it is a “No Frills” car except that most of the development money was put into the Integrated design of the Engine and the IRS.

Damn, $40k+ for a Mustang :nuts:

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### Author: ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/3 "2004-11-29T14:13:01Z")

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told ya!!!🌑

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### Author: ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/4 "2004-11-29T14:16:03Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> Damn, $40k+ for a Mustang :nuts:

> [@Blue4](#):
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> 1. The Car will have approximately 485-525bhp

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/5 "2004-11-29T14:17:03Z")

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I’ll believe it when it comes out  
6) The Car will have approximately 485-525bhp :kekegay:

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### Author: ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/6 "2004-11-29T14:18:30Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> I’ll believe it when it comes out  
> 6) The Car will have approximately 485-525bhp :kekegay:

it’s going to use a 5.4L with a twin screw supercharger

the last cobra was rated at 390bhp… but was really doing about 430bhp… hows 485-525 so far fetched?

You got the Z06 coming out with 500bhp.  
the SRT-10 Viper out with 505bhp.  
the new 2005 LS2 GTO with 400bhp  
the 2006 LS5 GTO Judge with 460bhp.  
the 2007 Camaro with 350hp with the 5.3L, 400hp in the LS2

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/7 "2004-11-29T14:19:47Z")

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You know whats going to happen, REPEAT of the 1970’s

in 2010 we are gonna be driving automatic datsuns :kekegay:

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### Author: ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/8 "2004-11-29T14:21:18Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> Bring back the foxbody with a 5.4L and a eaton :crying:

if you’re gonna go through that trouble, may as well replace the HEaton, with a Whipple heh

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### Author: ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/9 "2004-11-29T14:25:34Z")

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> [@8.1crew](#):
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> told ya that i like blue!!!🌑

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/10 "2004-11-29T14:28:54Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> You know whats going to happen, REPEAT of the 1970’s
> 
> in 2010 we are gonna be driving automatic datsuns :kekegay:

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### Author: ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/11 "2004-11-29T14:31:38Z")

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:gives: ill sell the cobra when it comes out in 08 so i can get a second year run of them

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### Author: ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/12 "2004-11-29T14:33:02Z")

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Our computer guy at work just told me today he has been sending emails to all kinds of people at Ford. Should be happy to hear this!

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### Author: ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/13 "2004-11-29T15:22:42Z")

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> [@HaNnIBaL64](#):
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> :gives: ill sell the cobra when it comes out in 08 so i can get a second year run of them

thats what im thinking when the gto judge comes out 🙂 give it a year to go on the used car lot and bam ! 🙂

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### Author: ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/14 "2004-11-29T15:44:14Z")

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Hmmm… sounds like a monster… i dont see why they just dont do the T-56 6spd in the lightning though.

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/15 "2004-11-29T15:46:19Z")

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automatic owns 🤣

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### Author: ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/16 "2004-11-29T15:49:39Z")

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yeah but to hold off production for a year is dumb… they should just keep with the SVT theme and only offer a manual transmission

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/17 "2004-11-29T15:52:39Z")

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They skipped the 2002 Cobra and came out in 2003 with 390hp :eek:  
sometimes its better to skip some years like 1983 Corvette :kekegay:

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### Author: ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/18 "2004-11-29T15:53:56Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> sometimes its better to skip some years like 1983 Corvette :kekegay:

🤣🤣🤣

but they have the entire lighning motor made, the problem is the transmission… they stopped the cobra in 02 cause the motors all out fucking blew ass

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### Author: ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/19 "2004-11-29T20:40:36Z")

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> [@SHAG](#):
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> They skipped the 2002 Cobra and came out in 2003 with 390hp :eek:  
> sometimes its better to skip some years like 1983 Corvette :kekegay:

well technically yes… there were about 400 Australian 2002 Cobras running around… but unfortunately they were just 2001 carry overs, used for export.

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### Author: ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/manufacturers-do-listen-svt-lives/170694/20 "2004-11-29T21:11:16Z")

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Hey I had a 1983 'Vette!

Chevette 😃

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