# Marine Tosses Puppy **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 4, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900 "2008-03-04T19:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/81 "2008-03-05T07:46:43Z")
> [@newman](#): > > i am not the one appalled by the video. > > i don’t think there is any massive tragedy. > > i don’t think the people in the video are any more fucked up than you and i. > > i am not throwing any stones. > > i am trying to point out the obvious inconsistencies with people’s accusations and views. > > i am accepting the video as a reality, just as i accept people eating meat as a reality. do you own any leather goods at all? you never answered that question. your viewpoint devalues intent, which i think is pretty laughable. i dont think this is a “massive tagedy”. i think its stupid and pointless. you are a vegan, right? so you are so ultra concerned about animals and killing. yet you chose a hobby that supports excess fuel consumption and feeds the ongoing war. your existence contradicts itself. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/82 "2008-03-05T07:47:04Z")
> [@Syclone11](#): > > what a piece of shit, he probably has homosexual aggression issues or something to harm an innocent puppy. I hope someone tosses him off a cliff so the person who _randomly_ brings up “homosexual issues” is accusing someone who injures a dog of having “homosexual issues” if anyone has “homosexual issues”, i’d say it’s you, pal. ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/83 "2008-03-05T07:48:32Z")
also, please don’t lump my viewpoint in with the general population of over-reactors… ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/84 "2008-03-05T07:54:08Z")
> [@newman](#): > > and you can have your opinions and i can have mine. > > real or fake, the video is funny. > > no one **needed** to throw that dog. > > no one **needed** to eat steak last night. > > people do what they want. > > so be it. > > word. the 3 seconds of airborn terror pale into comparison of months of torture your breakfast went through. The video may be funny to you. That’s your opinion, I just don’t agree with it. The apathy expressed by “people do what they want. so be it.” in my opinion is what is wrong. I guess in a society where I’m guaranteed to be able to have a 30min conversation about Britanny Spears, an individual where chances are neither of us have met, with any complete stranger off the street, but would be lucky to get at least a basic comprehension of our own political system… this should come as no surprise. I feel you’re a pretty bright person (more than average) and more aware of what I would consider important issues in our lives, I just feel that your ideas on this are wrong. Nothing personal. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/85 "2008-03-05T07:56:06Z")
> [@eclipsed](#): > > do you own any leather goods at all? you never answered that question. > > your viewpoint devalues intent, which i think is pretty laughable. > > i dont think this is a “massive tagedy”. i think its stupid and pointless. > > you are a vegan, right? so you are so ultra concerned about animals and killing. yet you chose a hobby that supports excess fuel consumption and feeds the ongoing war. your existence contradicts itself. i’m not as self righteous as you’re painting me. I am not crying “tragedy!” I am pointing out why it’s hypocritical that you claim this. If i was accusing people of being WRONG for eating meat, and you pointed out that i had leather seats in my truck, then the accusations that you are making about myself would be legitimate. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/86 "2008-03-05T07:57:34Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > The video may be funny to you. That’s your opinion, I just don’t agree with it. > > The apathy expressed by “people do what they want. so be it.” in my opinion is what is wrong. **I guess in a society where I’m guaranteed to be able to have a 30min conversation about Britanny Spears, an individual where chances are neither of us have met, with any complete stranger off the street, but would be lucky to get at least a basic comprehension of our own political system…** this should come as no surprise. that is exactly why this video is funny. ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/87 "2008-03-05T07:58:28Z")
> [@newman](#): > > i’m not as self righteous as you’re painting me. > > I am not crying “tragedy!” > > I am pointing out why it’s hypocritical that you claim this. > > If i was accusing people of being WRONG for eating meat, and you pointed out that i had leather seats in my truck, then the accusations that you are making about myself would be legitimate. fair enough. i guess i connected the dots for you, you did not ever say eating meat was wrong. it seemed implied… ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/88 "2008-03-05T08:01:00Z")
> [@eclipsed](#): > > fair enough. i guess i connected the dots for you, you did not ever say eating meat was wrong. it seemed implied… i do think it is wrong, but you will **never** find me trying to convince anyone of this. Maybe the day that i am a 100% perfect vegan, i could… but i’ll never be able to, nor would i still. Hypocrisy abounds. It’s nearly impossible to avoid. But it’s important to be able to identify it. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/89 "2008-03-05T08:05:35Z")
> [@newman](#): > > that is exactly why this video is funny. I’m getting the idea that it’s not so much the actual video you find funny; just the idea of what emotional effect the video has on people. The absurdity of the video and the resulting response is ridiculous considering the other issues that we could be debating right now that have far more moral significance. ---
**Author:** ![Syclone11](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/syclone11/32/7300_2.png) [@Syclone11](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Syclone11)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/90 "2008-03-05T08:10:06Z")
> [@newman](#): > > so the person who _randomly_ brings up “homosexual issues” is accusing someone who injures a dog of having “homosexual issues” > > if anyone has “homosexual issues”, i’d say it’s you, pal. I have a finace and a son, I think you are sadly mistaken. As for my statement about homosexual issues, it has been proven in many studies that people who abuse or torture animals, especially young males, have either been victims of abuse, physical or sexual themselves. Of those who have been studied and abused animals, many of the abusers have cited pent up homosexual and sexual frustration and problems as a cause for their cruelty towards animals. There is a triad of crimes called the MacDonald Triad, which link animal cruelty as a juvenile or young adult to more violent crimes later in life like rape and murder. I have a B.A. in Law and studied many types of criminal as well as psychological pathologies, it has been proven in study after study… One of the known warning signs of certain [psychopathologies](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Psychopathology), including [anti-social personality disorder](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Anti-social_personality_disorder), also known as psychopathic personality disorder, is a history of torturing pets and small **animals** , a behavior known as [zoosadism](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Zoosadism). According to the _[New York Times](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/New_York_Times)_, "[t]he FBI has found that a history of **cruelty** to **animals** is one of the traits that regularly appears in its computer records of serial [rapists](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Rape) and [murderers](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Serial_killer), and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists **cruelty** to **animals** a diagnostic criterion for [conduct disorders](http://209.85.165.104/wiki/Conduct_disorder). [[3]](http://www.tulsaspca.org/articles/abuse_history.html) “A survey of psychiatric patients who had repeatedly tortured dogs and cats found all of them had high levels of aggression toward people as well, including one patient who had murdered a young boy.” ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/91 "2008-03-05T08:10:38Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > I’m getting the idea that it’s not so much the actual video you find funny; just the idea of what emotional effect the video has on people. The absurdity of the video and the resulting response is ridiculous considering the other issues that we could be debating right now that have far more moral significance. exactly. 100% ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/92 "2008-03-05T08:11:53Z")
> [@Syclone11](#): > > I have a finace and a son, I think you are sadly mistaken. HELL YEA TO A BASTARD CHILD!! ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/93 "2008-03-05T08:17:04Z")
> [@newman](#): > > exactly. 100% As a testament to the power of this topic this thread is going strong at 4+ pages in under 40min. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/94 "2008-03-05T08:18:39Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > As a testament to the power of this topic this thread is going strong at 4+ pages in under 40min. why its a pretty gay fucking topic. Marine throws dog over cliff ------\> World ends ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/95 "2008-03-05T08:23:46Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > why its a pretty gay fucking topic. > > Marine throws dog over cliff ------\> World ends Parallel this with news stories like Michael Vick or Natalie Holloway. Perhaps these stories are outlets for our deeper frustrations we hold, but are too afraid to speak up on. The media knows this and our politicians know this so we’re fed this to keep us subdued. /end conspiracy theory ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/96 "2008-03-05T08:24:33Z")
> [@Syclone11](#): > > jfiods lol. so your post, coupled with your wikipedia crosspost has made it abundantly clear that people who torture animals grow up to be rapists, murderers, etc. etc. this is a fact i do not deny. i can’t imagine that you’re stupid enough (though i bet you’re pretty stupid) to be trying to draw the parallel that all rapists and murderers have “homosexual issues” so why did you even bother bringing that stuff up in response to what i said? no one was denying this… are you scared of killer fags? do you have a hard time sleeping knowing that IN YOUR VERY NEIGHBORHOOD, there are men having sex with men who could kill you at any moment? > [@Syclone11](#): > > As for my statement about homosexual issues, it has been proven in many studies that people who abuse or torture animals, especially young males, have either been **victims of abuse** , **physical** or sexual themselves. Of those who have been studied and abused animals, many of the abusers have cited pent up homosexual and **sexual frustration** and problems as a cause for their cruelty towards animals. of the examples that you just cited, the first one to pop into your little brain was “homosexual issues” who has the “homosexual issues” again? > [@Syclone11](#): > > I have a finace and a son, I think you are sadly mistaken. I forgot that being married to some haggard “model” and firing out some shitty kid immediately precluded you from being a homosexual. [http://world.std.com/~ewk/hal.html](http://world.std.com/~ewk/hal.html) wait a sec. these guys are married. and gay. but that can’t happen!!! oh noes! worlds collide! ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/97 "2008-03-05T08:26:00Z")
o m g ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/98 "2008-03-05T08:27:08Z")
> [@eclipsed](#): > > o > m > g 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/99 "2008-03-05T08:31:59Z")
[Meet your meat](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4) If you haven’t seen this. Please tell why this is any better because its “killing for food” ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900/100 "2008-03-05T08:33:57Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > [Meet your meat](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4) > > If you haven’t seen this. Please tell why this is any better because its “killing for food” there is another one about a slaughterhouse with some weird throat cutting machine that’s also disturbing… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/marine-tosses-puppy/49900.md?page=6)