# mazda speed 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 24, 2006, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218 "2006-10-24T07:25:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/21 "2006-10-24T12:01:02Z")
has anyone seen the curb weight onthe lill hatch yet? talked to a kid with a speed 6 which is a tank. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/22 "2006-10-24T12:30:12Z")
I dunno, I like this car so I hope I’m alone on this because I’d like to see it succeed, but if I were to drop 23-25k on a sport compact it would be a new 2.5L WRX or that upcoming detuned EVO thing. Same price. Same power. One has AWD but one has a bit nicer interior. I’d opt for AWD. ---
**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/23 "2006-10-24T12:41:29Z")
> [@RedrRocket](#): > > has anyone seen the curb weight onthe lill hatch yet? > > talked to a kid with a speed 6 which is a tank. Claimed 3153lbs ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/24 "2006-10-24T12:50:41Z")
I will never understand the need to release “sports cars” with FWD, or the desire for people to own them. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/25 "2006-10-24T13:02:25Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I will never understand the need to release “sports cars” with FWD, or the desire for people to own them. I don’t love FWD but this is definately a cool car. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/26 "2006-10-24T18:41:20Z")
C AND D loved it. ---
**Author:** ![TgDn32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tgdn32/32/7360_2.png) [@TgDn32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TgDn32)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/27 "2006-10-24T19:41:12Z")
They better pump out an AWD option in a year or two. ---
**Author:** ![jhenty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@jhenty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jhenty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/28 "2006-10-24T20:47:52Z")
AWD would have made this car ideal, and probably a lot quicker. The speed6 is quicker with the same engine (close at least) thanks to its awd and gearing. Cool car though and great price. ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/29 "2006-10-24T21:55:11Z")
> [@MXS](#): > > a friend ordered one in september and it just arrived, he’s picking it up tomorrow! So you are going to talk him into bringing it out and killing cones with it, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/30 "2006-10-24T22:03:28Z")
I’ve been trying to drag him out all summer, no luck! :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/31 "2006-10-25T19:49:55Z")
Mazdaspeed3 pictures for you. The first one in Rochester. [spot the Engrish. How many _house_power?!?! ![http://static.flickr.com/122/279517483_c1695f5aba.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/122/279517483_c1695f5aba.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/116/279517539_c27d7c5d42.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/116/279517539_c27d7c5d42.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/108/279517592_a05fbc1cb5.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/108/279517592_a05fbc1cb5.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/79/279517701_d8ad1160f2.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/79/279517701_d8ad1160f2.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/112/279517881_fe8589f136.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/112/279517881_fe8589f136.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/117/279517995_265d117455.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/117/279517995_265d117455.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/99/279518095_ef73b34cea.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/99/279518095_ef73b34cea.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/94/279518213_d9211029aa.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/94/279518213_d9211029aa.jpg) it has a top-mounted intercooler ![http://static.flickr.com/87/279518407_7037bd76d9.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/87/279518407_7037bd76d9.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/104/279518680_740a87590e.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/104/279518680_740a87590e.jpg)]([http://www.flickr.com/photos/marnie/sets/72157594345188814/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/marnie/sets/72157594345188814/)) ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/32 "2006-10-25T19:50:19Z")
[![http://static.flickr.com/119/279518612_73595474a0.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/119/279518612_73595474a0.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/79/279518811_ce97c7e377.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/79/279518811_ce97c7e377.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/102/279518936_2fb8522a1c.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/102/279518936_2fb8522a1c.jpg) it has 6 speeds ![http://static.flickr.com/111/279518982_968bdd4c0d.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/111/279518982_968bdd4c0d.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/116/279519048_8004ec34bf.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/116/279519048_8004ec34bf.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/80/279519101_33c88fac6d.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/80/279519101_33c88fac6d.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/86/279519343_c1cb422057.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/86/279519343_c1cb422057.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/84/279519498_27d6728b32.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/84/279519498_27d6728b32.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/104/279519661_e23c6e20ea.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/104/279519661_e23c6e20ea.jpg) ![http://static.flickr.com/85/279519757_c8dd9937ba.jpg](http://static.flickr.com/85/279519757_c8dd9937ba.jpg)]([http://www.flickr.com/photos/marnie/sets/72157594345188814/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/marnie/sets/72157594345188814/)) ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/33 "2006-10-25T20:17:03Z")
I like these but I’m really quite sick of FWD. ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/34 "2006-10-25T21:10:03Z")
nice shots, I want one ---
**Author:** ![fbrendan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fbrendan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fbrendan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/35 "2006-10-25T21:27:07Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > I like these but I’m really quite sick of FWD. QFT ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/36 "2006-10-25T21:38:35Z")
Nice car and nice pics. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/37 "2006-10-26T00:18:06Z")
sick car. i cant wait to drive one. i drove a mazda3s 5 door hatch with full TEINs, strut bars, sway bars, endlinks, intake, exhaust and 17X7.5s with Azenis. drove really well and the exact words were…needs a snail. love this car ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/38 "2006-10-26T04:47:32Z")
> [@EvoMR](#): > > One of the mags (can’t remember which but current issue) had it beating a wrx by a decent margin around an autox course and also said the interior was substantially nicer. Anything can beat a WRX around an auto X couse with the all season suckstone RE-92’s mounted. ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/39 "2006-10-26T04:57:57Z")
> [@jrex](#): > > The modability of the car is going to depend on how many companies are able to engineer new parts for the direct injection engine. Cosworth said they are working on developing upgrades for it, but it will be interesting to see how many others will be able to develop and engineer aftermarket parts that work, rather than the biting of everyone elses ideas that goes on so much now. > > This car should kick ass out of the box based on all of its reviews, and makes power that should place it competitively with the other turbocharged options out there, even though it is FWD. This also goes hand in hand with the physycal limitations of direct injection. For a maximum power maximum tunability standpoint it just dosent make much sense. It all has to do with the way the system works and how fuel can only be introduced at a specific window in the combustion cycle. The problem with DI is that injectors cannot fire out of phase. As the RPM goes up the MORE fuel the engine will require and the LESS time the DI will have to inject it. In port injection you can pretty much have the injectors dump fuel 100 percent of the time regardless of the engine phase. The valves control the fuel/air delivery Meaning you can NEVER run the DI injectors to 100 percent IDC. They can only run at the IDC that is in phase with the engine rotation. In direct injection all the fuel must be injected in the last part of the intake stroke and the beginning part of the compression stroke. As RPM’s rise the fueling window becomes less because the strokes becomes faster and as a result there is less time to inject fuel. Essentially with DI the more power at RPM you make, the RATE fuel delivery needs to increase EXPOTENTALLY because of the decreasing time the injectors have to fire in the correct phase. As we know the square of anything becomes real big real fast. The overall fuel delivered between port and direct injection does not change BUT direct injection must deliver an enormous amount at one time to match the engine phase. For this reason Formula 1 cars that use RPM to make power still use port injection. The fuel requrements at RPM would make direct injection an impossibility. Direct injection is most optimally used in diesel engines because of the lower RPM’s that diesel engines produce as well as the energy density in diesel fuel. Unless we are willing to spend boatloads on super high flow gasoline DI high pressure injectors that dont even exist yet. I think it would be best to convert the car to port injection for high power needs. ---
**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218/40 "2006-10-26T07:47:02Z")
Switching over to port injection isn’t going to be super cheap either, as you are still going to need a manifold designed for port injection, rail, regulator, injectors, etc. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mazda-speed-3/19218.md?page=3)