# McCain = 0wn3d

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [September 24, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135 "2008-09-24T21:30:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![St2SC\_dCobalt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/st2sc_dcobalt/32/6413_2.png) [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/21 "2008-09-24T22:46:16Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000](#):
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> are you from texas?

LOL

Yeah, I mean this is _ **shift210** _ … right?

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/22 "2008-09-24T22:49:24Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> LOL
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> Yeah, I mean this is _ **shift210** _ … right?

so let me get this straight… if you had a family member mother father brother whatever… and they were in excrusiating pain, barely living, and they just wanted to be let go… you wouldnt want to grant them that wish?

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### Author: ![St2SC\_dCobalt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/st2sc_dcobalt/32/6413_2.png) [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/23 "2008-09-24T22:56:47Z")

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> [@Jimmerz](#):
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> i see nothing wrong with the first 3

**ISSUE 1:** Aren’t you glad your mother didn’t abort you? I am, else I wouldn’t be talking to you now!  
**ISSUE 2:** All Life is sacred. That being the case, one can not be allowed to “opt out” of it at will.  
**ISSUE 3:** Under no circumstance can one individual be purposely destroyed so as to try and help another (i.e., “no evil can be done to gain a good”)

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### Author: ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/24 "2008-09-24T22:58:55Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> Some things can be comprised on, some things can not.
> 
> No liberal will never get my vote unless they change their policies and stop supporting these 5 Non-Negotiable items:
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> **1. Abortion :nono  
> 2. Euthanasia :nono  
> 3. Embryonic Stem Cell Research :nono  
> 4. Human Cloning :nono  
> 5. Homosexual “Marriage” :nono**

…Wow. I’ll keep all personal comments to myself, but wow…

1.)I eat abortions for breakfast  
2.)If someone wants to die, let 'em.  
3.)Superman could move his fingers  
4.)I agree  
5.)Nothing wrong with homosexual marriage

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### Author: ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/25 "2008-09-24T23:00:38Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> 1.)I eat abortions for breakfast

:lol

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### Author: ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/26 "2008-09-24T23:02:58Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> **ISSUE 2:** All Life is sacred. That being the case, one can not be allowed to “opt out” of it at will.

Do you believe in the death penalty?

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### Author: ![St2SC\_dCobalt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/st2sc_dcobalt/32/6413_2.png) [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/27 "2008-09-24T23:05:40Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000](#):
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> so let me get this straight… if you had a family member mother father brother whatever… and they were in excrusiating pain, barely living, and they just wanted to be let go… you wouldnt want to grant them that wish?

First, with today’s modern pallative care (a philosophy of care to try to meet the physical, emotional and spiritual needs of people with a life threatening or terminal illness), the instances of dying in excruciating pain is the exception, not the rule.

But more importantly, Life was given to us freely … as a gift. As such, it is not our’s to end as we see fit.

**_Euthanasia_:  
-Often disguised by the name “mercy killing,” euthanasia is also a form of homicide.  
-No person has a right to take his own life, and no one has the right to take the life of any innocent person.  
-In euthanasia, the ill or elderly are killed, by action or omission, out of a misplaced sense of compassion, but true compassion cannot include intentionally doing something intrinsically evil to another person.**

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/28 "2008-09-24T23:07:13Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> **ISSUE 1:** Aren’t you glad your mother didn’t abort you? I am, else I wouldn’t be talking to you now!  
> **ISSUE 2:** All Life is sacred. That being the case, one can not be allowed to “opt out” of it at will.  
> **ISSUE 3:** Under no circumstance can one individual be purposely destroyed so as to try and help another (i.e., “**no evil can be done to gain a good”)**

o really? your not a utilitarian then by any means

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/29 "2008-09-24T23:12:08Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> First, with today’s modern pallative care (a philosophy of care to try to meet the physical, emotional and spiritual needs of people with a life threatening or terminal illness), the instances of dying in excruciating pain is the exception, not the rule.
> 
> But more importantly, Life was given to us freely … as a gift. As such, it is not our’s to end as we see fit.
> 
> **_Euthanasia_:  
> -Often disguised by the name “mercy killing,” euthanasia is also a form of homicide.  
> -No person has a right to take his own life, and no one has the right to take the life of any innocent person.  
> -In euthanasia, the ill or elderly are killed, by action or omission, out of a misplaced sense of compassion, but true compassion cannot include intentionally doing something intrinsically evil to another person.**

stop plagiarizing first off all, second let me give you a situation since you believe that you can never take the life of an innocent person… there is a plane that has a bomb on it, its about the size of a learjet and it has about 10 hostages being held by terrorists … if it makes it to its desitination, a building, it will kill 3000 people. Now you are a fighter jet behind this lear jet and you have the choice, do i shoot the plane down saving 3000 people or do i let it go and watch it kill 3000 people

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### Author: ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/30 "2008-09-24T23:13:48Z")

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![http://4simpsons.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/pro-choice-baby.jpg?w=194&h=290](http://4simpsons.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/pro-choice-baby.jpg?w=194&h=290)

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/31 "2008-09-24T23:15:15Z")

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[http://www.priestsforlife.org/elections/voterguide.htm](http://www.priestsforlife.org/elections/voterguide.htm)… thats what hes been copying down

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### Author: ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/32 "2008-09-24T23:16:03Z")

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Abortions have been occuring since 1500BC. :nana

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### Author: ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/33 "2008-09-24T23:16:20Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000](#):
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> [Abortion - Pro Life - Voter’s Guide for Serious Catholics](http://www.priestsforlife.org/elections/voterguide.htm)… thats what hes been copying down

ooo, seems hes part of a cult maybe?

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### Author: ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/34 "2008-09-24T23:20:04Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> Abortions have been occuring since 1500BC. :nana

still a good way to perform an abortion

 ![http://www.explodingdog.com/dumbpict51/falling.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/1/f1722e2eb89132acc6250803b092a44dc1d5d818.gif)

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/35 "2008-09-24T23:21:54Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> still a good way to perform an abortion  
> ![http://www.explodingdog.com/dumbpict51/falling.gif](http://www.explodingdog.com/dumbpict51/falling.gif)

haha… but honestly the whole election thing, both of these guys are backed by huge corporations so its basically pick your poison

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### Author: ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/36 "2008-09-24T23:22:00Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000](#):
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> [Abortion - Pro Life - Voter’s Guide for Serious Catholics](http://www.priestsforlife.org/elections/voterguide.htm)… thats what hes been copying down

Wow… holy fail. That link makes me want to shoot myself in the eyes.

So homosexual marriage is not allowed? But molesting choir boys is infact permitted?  
Child molestation and homosexuality was highly accepted in Sparta. That was 500BC.

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### Author: ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/37 "2008-09-24T23:23:20Z")

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![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2590656465_4b8679101d.jpg?v=0](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2590656465_4b8679101d.jpg?v=0)

My favorite method of abortion.

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### Author: ![St2SC\_dCobalt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/st2sc_dcobalt/32/6413_2.png) [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/38 "2008-09-24T23:23:33Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> …Wow. I’ll keep all personal comments to myself, but wow…
> 
> 1.)I eat abortions for breakfast  
> 2.)If someone wants to die, let 'em.  
> 3.)Superman could move his fingers  
> 4.)I agree  
> 5.)Nothing wrong with homosexual marriage

You are entitled to your opinions, as am I.

Therefore:

1. Vulgar statements need no reply. So I offer none.
2. Our lives are a gift, and can not be thrown away under any circumstances.
3. If by “Superman” you mean Christopher Reeves, and if so then you are implying that embryonic stem cells would have helped him … extensive research has proved that to be totally incorrect. The only (and I mean only) positive results that have come from stem cell research is from adult stem cells and umbilical cord stem cells. Not only has embryonic stem cells been shown to worthless in helping any known diseases whatsoever, it has actually accelerated many of the diseases it was hoped to cure. FAIL!
4. We need only to look at Nature and Biology to see that homosexual mariage is completely wrong. Male anatomy “fits” perfectly with the female anatomy. Nothing else “works”. For all of time, Nature has dictated it as such. Nothing’s ever gonna change that.

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/39 "2008-09-24T23:23:51Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> Wow… holy fail. That link makes me want to shoot myself in the eyes.
> 
> So homosexual marriage is not allowed? But molesting choir boys is infact permitted?  
> Child molestation and homosexuality was highly accepted in Sparta. That was 500BC.

word… i have no problem with gay people just living happy, doing their own thing… i dont understand why people go out of their way to make it such an issue

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### Author: ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-0wn3d/239135/40 "2008-09-24T23:25:20Z")

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> [@Stage2SuperchargedCobalt](#):
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> Male anatomy “fits” perfectly with the female anatomy. Nothing else “works”. For all of time, Nature has dictated it as such. Nothing’s ever gonna change that.

i sometimes have trouble fitting my male anatomy into the female anatomy. :giggedy

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