# McCain Fans: IN **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 6, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778 "2008-09-06T22:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/81 "2008-10-08T06:06:11Z")
> [@Wayne64SS](#): > > wow… this thread FTL. > > check it out - none of your votes will matter. NY is primarily democratic and will go democratic no matter what. When all is said and done your votes don’t really matter anyway because the president is picked based upon an electoral college and not the popular vote. Besides, you can just call for a recount whenever you want now. > > I’m sick of the whole deal in general. Politicians are all scumbags, and not a god damn one of them, democrat or republican, gives a fuck about this country as a whole or any of the people in it. > > America does need a change, but its gonna take alot more than one fucking election. Good post. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/82 "2008-10-08T06:27:25Z")
Both parties have issues this year but here is a little fun fact for you Democratic fans this year. EVERYONE knows our economy is in the shitter. EVERYONE blames Bush. He had quite a bit to do with it, yes. But do you know where it started? Obv. not if you are constantly bashing Republicans for our current state of economy. Bill Clinton started the downhill trend. Sure he got our economy into a surplus but that was due to the very law that would affect us negatively later on. He passed a law, that in laymans terms allowed people to get credit for homes, cars, credit cars, that normally would not have been able to get the credit. This law more or less forced banks to have to give the credit to these people. Then, it made him look great. People we spending money, people had jobs, our economy was at that point awesome. Now, years later, we are dealing with this decision because all of the people who got the bad credit are finding out that they cant actually afford what they bought. It is taking its toll on banks, taxpayers and our economy. So both parties are to blame here. Clinton for starting this whole thing and Bush for adding to the problem and trying to fix it. As far as my choice in voting for McCain. Obama, could be classified as a socialist. He wants to let government have some control of our free market system. Including healthcare insurance. No matter what you think, healthcare insurance is a business. And what is the goal of all business that is for-profit? To make a profit. Honestly, I get upset when I hear either one of them refer to it as healthcare. Our HEALTHCARE is NOT the issue. Us being able to pay for it is. Our healthcare is great. The reason it is so great is because hospital and institutions compete with one another to make a profit. If they didnt have to compete then the quality of healthcare would go down drastically. Sure you would now be able to have health insurance while the country suffers shitty treatment and LONG LONG waits on major surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/83 "2008-10-08T06:33:25Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Both parties have issues this year but here is a little fun fact for you Democratic fans this year. EVERYONE knows our economy is in the shitter. EVERYONE blames Bush. He had quite a bit to do with it, yes. But do you know where it started? Obv. not if you are constantly bashing Republicans for our current state of economy. We have a deficit because of the spend spend spend mentality of the Republican party. However, the mortgage thing is because nothing was done years ago and it’s finally catching up. The reasons the Republicans are blamed is because they have been in office for 8 years and we are in a dismal shape. That is also why this is hurting McCain in the polls. > [@Pants Party](#): > > As far as my choice in voting for McCain. Obama, could be classified as a socialist. He wants to let government have some control of our free market system. What about McCain’s regulating of Wall Street? He has spent his entire career stating he is Mr Deregulator and now he is on the bandwagon of reform. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/84 "2008-10-08T06:48:40Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > We have a deficit because of the spend spend spend mentality of the Republican party. However, the mortgage thing is because nothing was done years ago and it’s finally catching up. > > The reasons the Republicans are blamed is because they have been in office for 8 years and we are in a dismal shape. That is also why this is hurting McCain in the polls. True, but the Democrats haven’t been penny-pinchers either. The Republicans get blamed for the last 8 years but a majority of those years were under a Democratic congress. The president (and therefore his party) takes the credit and blame for politics in this country because Americans are too stupid to know how the system works. It’s everyone’s fault. I’m a huge fan of laissez-faire, but the current market NEEDS regulation to keep this from happening. If you partially regulate capitalism, you need to totally regulate capitalism or else it’ll destroy itself. And as always 100% of this can be avoided if the American people weren’t stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/85 "2008-10-08T07:04:58Z")
/thread after waynes post anything and everything that goes on after gwb is just going to be blamed as an echo effect of the bush admin anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/86 "2008-10-08T07:06:43Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > True, but the Democrats haven’t been penny-pinchers either. The Republicans get blamed for the last 8 years but a majority of those years were under a Democratic congress. The president (and therefore his party) takes the credit and blame for politics in this country because Americans are too stupid to know how the system works. It’s everyone’s fault. > > I’m a huge fan of laissez-faire, but the current market NEEDS regulation to keep this from happening. If you partially regulate capitalism, you need to totally regulate capitalism or else it’ll destroy itself. > > **And as always 100% of this can be avoided if the American people weren’t stupid.** +1000 sub-prime mortgages WTF?!?!?! Did you REALLY and HONESTLY think you could get a $400,000 house for $20 a month and there wouldn’t be a consequence somewhere? Now the rest of us who paid attention and did some fucking research about mortgages BEFORE buying have to bail you out. Fuck You. you should be shot for being ignorant and your house should be sold to the highest bidder. survival of the fittest. FUck the idea of catering to the weak and useless. +1 for anyone not in debt up to their eyeballs in stupid shit or mortgages they knew they couldn’t afford. EDIT: Interest ONLY?!?!?! If you were dumb enough to take one of those and planned to actually stay in the house you are the dumbest waste of space evar and should just go fucking rent. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/87 "2008-10-08T07:07:11Z")
Doesn’t it concern you that people link McCain to him for a reason? He WILL go down as one of the biggest failures in our history. The weird thing is that GOP picked two candidates that matched the same two fuckups: GWB/McCain and Cheney/Palin ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/88 "2008-10-08T07:10:26Z")
My teacher made some good points about the two canidates in class today. I would post that info up here to sound like i know what im talking about but i dont so i will refrain from doing so. :lol ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/89 "2008-10-08T07:10:37Z")
My grandparents tell me stories about how they used to look up to their presidents as leaders. Man that must be nice. But for that to happen, you need a leader…with leadership experience. Bring back freaking Eisenhower. I like Ike. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/90 "2008-10-08T07:14:12Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > My grandparents tell me stories about how they used to look up to their presidents as leaders. Man that must be nice. But for that to happen, you need a leader…with leadership experience. > > Bring back freaking Eisenhower. I like Ike. One of my problems with McCain and Obama for that matter. They don’t “appear” to be a leader. McCain looks a foot in the grave. He says crazy shit like My Friends and blinks a lot. He just looks like death. Obama is intelligent but lacks experience. Both are politicans so they just lie. I want someone like that guy in Independence Day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/91 "2008-10-08T07:35:24Z")
LOL @ Independence Day. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/92 "2008-10-08T08:08:34Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > LOL @ Independence Day. Absolutely. He was a friggin stud. Except the crying scene. That was a tad ghey. He didn’t crash his plane either. :lol ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/93 "2008-10-08T10:27:24Z")
If Will Smith and Jeff freaking Goldblum were trying to steal all the credit for saving the day, I’d be crying too. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/94 "2008-10-08T10:37:34Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > If Will Smith and Jeff freaking Goldblum were trying to steal all the credit for saving the day, I’d be crying too. Explain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/95 "2008-10-08T10:42:50Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Explain. 🙂 That red-neck, ex-military drunken dad saved the day by kamikaze’ing his plane into the hole of the alien space craft. God Shawn. Obviously not a big Will Smith fan, are ya? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/96 "2008-10-08T10:48:02Z")
> [@Cliff](#): > > That red-neck, ex-military drunken dad saved the day by kamikaze’ing his plane into the hole of the alien space craft. God Shawn. Obviously not a big Will Smith fan, are ya? BIG Will Smith fan but I didn’t reference who actually saved the day. I just mentioned I liked the President character who was young/vibrant. Not Santa Clause looking m0f0 that blinks a lot. But, even though, the old red neck did crash the plane which mimicks McCain, McCain was caught. :lol ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/97 "2008-10-08T10:49:18Z")
i am voting McCain, simply because i dont want to see Obama ruin this country, besides i dont want to see Biden as pres. either, because you know some crazy guy from the south will probably try and take out Obama ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/98 "2008-10-08T10:50:51Z")
i’ll take anyone in office over Palin, thats one dumb bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/99 "2008-10-08T10:55:44Z")
I think you have more of a chance of Palin taking over due to McCain’s health than Obama being murdered. Palin @ President is crazy talk. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778/100 "2008-10-08T11:02:48Z")
to be honest, none of them are qualified in my opinion, i think McCain is overqualified, simply because hes gone this long wihtout actually being a president, i think its past his time. Obama, Biden, Palin, all retards. We need a leader not some idiots. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mccain-fans-in/238778.md?page=6)