# McLaren MP4-12C: Official Site Content **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [September 16, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mclaren-mp4-12c-official-site-content/246883 "2009-09-16T20:59:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 11
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mclaren-mp4-12c-official-site-content/246883/11 "2009-11-15T10:25:43Z")
> [@60 years of racing history going up in flames](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/60-years-of-racing-history-going-up-in-flames/25731/12): > > I’m with Jeremy Clarkson on this one. Cars like this, the 360/430/458 Ferraris, 911 GT3, etc are the true driving supercars. The Countach, Carrera GT, F50, Murcielago, etc are all barely drivable hypercars that exist because they are so flamboyantly illogical. The Enzo was the first one of those cars that was sort of barely kinda maybe drivable by a normal person according to test drivers. Enzo/Countach/CGT/etc race cars are rare and almost always not from the factory. The real driving cars are this McLaren, F430s, 911s, 458 Italia, yadda yadda. Don’t forget the champ of no compromise - F40 --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mclaren-mp4-12c-official-site-content/246883)._