# Me new Nest Thermostat...

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**Created:** [February 24, 2012, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749 "2012-02-24T12:23:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/121 "2014-12-05T20:00:16Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> 5min install :tup:
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> Good to go

Easiest thing to install ever.

The recent update is cool too.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/122 "2015-01-08T09:42:39Z")

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Update

It’s been working well it will tell you how long it takes to reach X temp and a lot of other nice features.

Definitely worth the money I will try and calculate savings after a few more months.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/123 "2015-01-08T11:59:22Z")

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I was out of town for a few days, came home and it lights up to say “auto away saved 36 hours of heating time” so I like that. And that’s with the lowest temp set to only 68.

Although I only managed one leaf in all of 2014, lol.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/124 "2015-01-08T12:00:56Z")

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I’m not convinced that I could offset the price of a nest in saving over my well programmed traditional one, perhaps even in my lifetime.

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/125 "2015-01-08T15:15:20Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I’m not convinced that I could offset the price of a nest in saving over my well programmed traditional one, perhaps even in my lifetime.

Who cares? How are you off setting the price of insurance on your vette when it sits in storage all winter? You aren’t and you bought it because you wanted it.  
I don’t understand how people are trying to justify a $200 thermostat with actual savings. It’s a cool $200 gadget. Lets leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/126 "2015-01-08T15:29:09Z")

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In my situation I guarantee this is saving me money I had a old programable thermostat that would turn down at X time and turn up at X time.

Now this one better matches my actual schedule causing the heat to run less…It also turns down the thermostat when it detects nobody is home.

But like NYStranger said its a cool tech gadget I didn’t buy it save massive amounts of money its an added benefit.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/127 "2015-01-08T17:36:43Z")

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Another interesting thing that Nest does:

> Why is cooling or heating sometimes delayed?

> The Nest Learning Thermostat will sometimes delay or prolong heating and cooling for a few minutes. This prevents damage to your equipment.

> When heating and cooling systems are turned on and off again within a short amount of time, it can damage the equipment. The Nest Learning Thermostat implements a delay between on and off states in order to protect your system. This delay is called the minimum on-off time.

> **[Thermostat maintenance band - Google Nest Help](https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9233450?hl=en)**
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> When your heating or cooling turns on and off frequently it can use more energy and may increase wear on your system. To help prevent this, your Nest thermostat will wait to turn on your system. This

This happened to me today and I had to look up why heating was delayed a few minutes.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/128 "2015-01-09T14:32:14Z")

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[http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=09H-000X-00041&nm\_mc=AFC-dealnews&cm\_mmc=AFC-dealnews-](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=09H-000X-00041&nm_mc=AFC-dealnews&cm_mmc=AFC-dealnews-)_-NA-_-NA-\_-09H-000X-00041

This is so much cheaper than the Nest, what will I do with all my savings? I know, I’ll use my savings to buy something that has cool technology in it.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/129 "2015-01-09T19:53:15Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Another interesting thing that Nest does:
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> [Thermostat maintenance band - Google Nest Help](https://nest.com/support/article/Why-is-cooling-or-heating-sometimes-delayed)
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> This happened to me today and I had to look up why heating was delayed a few minutes.

practically all digital t-stats have an anti short cycle timer to protect the compressor.

heating doesn’t need this. Sounds like you could have a problem, what was your heat doing?

sequence of operation for a furnace:

Combustion fan turns on to pre purge the system for 30-45sec

hot surface igniter heats up or spark igniter Sparks to light the burners.

30-60 seconds after burners are lit the blower comes on.

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Once t-stat is satisfied burners go out, combustion fan stay on for 30sec, blower stays on 45-90 sec after burners are off to remove the heat from the heat exchanger and then blower turns off as well.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/130 "2015-01-12T15:29:25Z")

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I’m sure I don’t have any issues, my furnace is brand new. I don’t know what happened I just noticed the count down timer on the screen and looked it up. And if it’s added protection to the already built in safe guards then I’ll take it.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/131 "2015-02-02T12:26:36Z")

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“ **New Data Shows the Nest Thermostat Can Cut Your Heat Bill by 10 Percent”**

> **[New Data Shows the Nest Thermostat Can Cut Your Heat Bill by 10 Percent](https://www.wired.com/2015/02/new-data-shows-nest-thermostat-can-cut-heat-bill-10-percent/?mbid=social_fb)**
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> The energy-saving benefits of Nest’s thermostat have always been loudly trumpeted by the Google-owned company, but now it says it has proof. Nest today revealed that it had been quietly looking at the energy savings of thermostat users since 2013,...

> Just how much can you save on your utility bill if you switch to one of those Nest smart thermostats? Nest says it can finally give you an answer.Today, [Nest revealed](https://nest.com/blog/2015/02/02/the-nest-learning-thermostat-saves-energy-heres-the-proof/) that it had been quietly studying the energy- and cost-saving benefits of its smart thermostats since 2013—and that the results of this study are in: Over the past two years, the Nest Learning Thermostat has saved its users 10 to 12 percent on their heating bills and 15 percent on their cooling bills.  
> In monetary terms, Nest claims, this translates to an average savings of $131 to $145 a year. And since a brand new Nest thermostat costs $250, if you use it for close to two years, it will pay for itself, according to the company.  
> “No one’s been able to test this at this scale before,” says Ben Bixby, Nest’s general manager of energy services, “and to say that this thing that adds to the aesthetics of your home also pays for itself.”  
> Bixby is the former CEO of energy data startup MyEnergy, which [Nest acquired back in 2013](https://gigaom.com/2013/05/07/nest-acquires-myenergy-formerly-earth-aid-moves-deeper-into-utility-data/). Originally, MyEnergy’s service was designed to collect, analyze, and give recommendations around utility energy data—something Nest likely found useful in conducting its study. Now, MyEnergy’s platform lets Nest users link up their utility bills to Nest’s thermostat to get a more transparent view of their energy and cost savings.  
> In order to gather the information it needed, Nest looked at 1500 customers in forty-one states who opted into the MyEnergy platform, and analyzed their energy use before and after they installed the Nest thermostat. Independently, it says, two other groups—the [Energy Trust of Oregon](http://energytrust.org/library/reports/Nest_Pilot_Study_Evaluation_wSR.pdf), and Indiana-based utility company Vectren—conducted their own utility usage studies. Nest’s in-house study concluded around the same time the other two wrapped up, and according to Bixby,[they replicated Nest’s results](http://www.wired.com/2015/02/new-data-shows-nest-thermostat-can-cut-heat-bill-10-percent/www.nest.com/press/#documents).  
> Additionally, the company announced that starting February 9, customers will be able to speak with a live Nest Energy Advisor to get guidance on how to eke out maximum savings from using its smart thermostat.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/132 "2015-02-02T13:00:28Z")

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useless study… how do I know what kind of thermostat people had before and how well they programmed it?

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/133 "2015-02-02T19:54:12Z")

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Picked one up about a month ago, it didn’t take long to figure out my schedule and really like it can tell me how long until it’s at temperature

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/134 "2015-02-23T16:58:00Z")

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Here’s a thermostat that might work for some people: [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/803977747/thermoneystat-control-the-money-not-just-the-tempe](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/803977747/thermoneystat-control-the-money-not-just-the-tempe)

> It’s the thermostat that lets you control the money you spend on heating and cooling

 ![http://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaltrends-uploads-prod/2015/02/Thermoneystat-smart-thermostat.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/6/567f00f67ed51b880179ccde20caf451cd6d8347.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/135 "2015-07-03T18:04:41Z")

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Saw these on shark tank. I’m not sure how well they actually work, but the idea is excellent. It basically creates zoned HVAC by using independently operated room vents. I imagine the furnace manufacturers are leery of this sort of thing and their warranty but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before they start making smarter units.

> **[Keen Home](https://keenhome.io/)**
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> Smart zoning for your home in minutes, not days. Get the perfect temperature in any room.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/136 "2015-07-03T18:38:56Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Here’s a thermostat that might work for some people: [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/803977747/thermoneystat-control-the-money-not-just-the-tempe](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/803977747/thermoneystat-control-the-money-not-just-the-tempe)
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> ![http://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaltrends-uploads-prod/2015/02/Thermoneystat-smart-thermostat.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/6/567f00f67ed51b880179ccde20caf451cd6d8347.jpeg)

My wife pays the heat bill so I don’t need to know.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/137 "2015-07-03T19:36:29Z")

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I’m trying to figure out if a programmable thermostat makes sense for me. I have a standard non programmable carrier thermostat that came with our system.

We work pretty standard hours 8-5pm.

AC goes up to 78 when we are not home, goes down to 74 when we are home, and 72 when we go to bed.

Average AC bill is no more than $125 per month in the blazing summer of Texas. Winter Electric bill is 40 bucks maybe 50.

Gas bill is nothing year round, so I don’t really care about saving gas too much. I think my highest gas bill was 48 dollars.

Its nice having a well insulated 1100 sq foot house I suppose.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/138 "2016-01-06T13:10:52Z")

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BUMP!

So the home I purchased last year came with a Gen 1 Nest. So it could have been purchased anywhere between 2011 to 13 (when gen 2 came out).

For the first time in about 18 months I woke up to a cold ass house. I went over to the nest and it was dead. I noticed a blinking red light and hopped on google.

So when the light is blinking red, it means it’s recharging and will boot up soon.

I went to home depot and got a 30$ thermostat to replace it with in case the battery fully shits the bed. Besides looking cool and using my phone to heat/cool the house I do not believe the nest has saved me that much and I’m not spending 275 for another one. House is well insulated by the way.

When I got back from home depot the nest was powered back on and the house was pretty warm, but the power was low enough still that the WiFi would not work.

So hopped on YouTube and found that you can hard wire the nest to your thermostat so it doesn’t rely on the battery. I took the cover off my furnace and located the common, and took the nest apart and saw that the common was not used, so I’m hoping to simply fish a wire through and hook up the common. As of right now seems to be okay.

Anyone else with issues??

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/139 "2016-01-06T13:19:05Z")

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> [@ubengineering](#):
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> I do not believe the nest has saved me that much

How did you determine that?

Also did you try following any of the instructions on Google? Charging it for a little bit off the USB port on the back will fix your issue.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-new-nest-thermostat/220749/140 "2016-01-06T13:35:47Z")

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How long for people that have saved money did it take to save the money you spent on it?

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