# Meatheads: Need Advice

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**Created:** [February 15, 2010, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/meatheads-need-advice/250336 "2010-02-15T09:15:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/meatheads-need-advice/250336/27 "2010-02-16T11:44:53Z")

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> [@Time for another weird post from me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-for-another-weird-post-from-me/29334/12):
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> I am not sure if you are familiar with H Drol from CEL but I am going to do a 1 month bulk cycle on it.
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> I will be working out 5 days a week so I am not worried about estrogen issues.  
> What I am worried about is liver support. What would you recommend I use for lower liver support or PCT?
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> I have never used a PH before so any and all advice is welcome. Thanks.

I don’t usually post but I figured this would need some real attention.  
Training 5 days a week, no matter how hard you train, wont stop your estrogen production from going nuts. (Not to mention you will shut down your natural test production, which isnt good.)

When a cycle is over, your body reacts in a certain way. One way is the sudden mass-production of various hormones, including estrogen. To prevent yourself from getting gyno and a bunch of other nasty sides, you need a SERM. (Selective Estrogen Receptor Module, if i remember correctly.)  
A good SERM is Tamoxifen. Its perscribed for breast cancer users. You won’t get this easily at all, I know where to get it, but i’m not going to go around giving names of reputable sources that already have enough un-educated kids buying things from them, they don’t need any more bad attention.

If you want a decent forum where you can learn a lot, try out [Prohormoneforum.com](http://Prohormoneforum.com). Don’t post a stupid topic asking a bunch of questions without looking around their stickies.

Why do I know all this? Well i was a real fat ass at once point. I have a mild ph cycle under my belt. I didnt do very well, I lost all my gains but I learned a lot.

edit: the t-nation link is a good one, they are another decent site to read up on when it comes to this stuff. But overall, you’re not ready at all.

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