# Meatheads talking about eachother's meat and increasing the size of their meat. MEAT. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 30, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/meatheads-talking-about-eachothers-meat-and-increasing-the-size-of-their-meat-meat/241072 "2008-12-30T17:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 160
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/meatheads-talking-about-eachothers-meat-and-increasing-the-size-of-their-meat-meat/241072/160 "2009-01-02T23:31:44Z")
> [@24](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/topic/6048/430): > > i used to take NOXPLODE and all it did was give me the jitters. id be at the gym shaking. i didnt like it at all. i saw bette results just lifting harder and taking protein supplements > [@farewell to the miracle man...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-the-miracle-man/12082/6): > > I took NOXCG-3 awhile back, only gave me some energy…and mood swings like a fuck. I was REAL mad when i was on that shit, almost choked out my ex gf…which lookin back i prolly should have lmao…jk The effects that both of you noted are due to the excess amount of caffeine and other ‘energy sources’ in the product. It’s just a powdered energy drink, and the strength gains that people report on it are due to 3 things- 1)Caffeine and other energy stimulants 2)Creatine (big one) 3)Placebo (big one). If someone likes the effects that they feel from a NO product, it’s easily (and more cheaply) reproduced with a caffiene source and creatine. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/meatheads-talking-about-eachothers-meat-and-increasing-the-size-of-their-meat-meat/241072)._