# Member VS member thread is closed and moved.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 5, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603 "2008-12-05T20:04:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/101 "2008-12-06T12:06:54Z")

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quite frankly, joey has done nothing beneficial for the community. he rips on people every chance he gets with no regard for his actions and brags about getting out of street racing tickets. he screwed over jason who, as i see it, has only benefitted the upstate scene. hes shown several selfless acts from purchasing alot of the food for the shift bbq’s, standing up for jeremy’s wife in the lot fight, and bought a good majority of food for my fundraiser which i cannot begin to explain how thankful i am to everyone who helped me with that. jay and i both flipped our bikes within 2 weeks of each other last year so theres another basis of common ground we shared… joey is young and is trying to get over on him and it aint right… the reason joeys mom was even brought into it was because of this comment: **_No he’s not kidding, he’s actually viewing it how it happened and isn’t jumping on the bandwagon of “give the car back”, by the way so you people nagging about the car, it’s my mom’s I just drive it and she doesn’t want to trade._**

joey had put the owness or “blame” if you will on his mom to dissociate himself from the situation. the right thing to do is to give the fuckin kid back his car because he was lied to (by omission) to get him to do the deal. he has FIXED several issues with the car and is offering to pay the dmv transaction fees to reverse the trade. its only right.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/102 "2008-12-06T12:10:33Z")

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I can understand if you don’t like Joey, but you don’t call his or anyone’s mom a cunt, then act unapologetic afterwards and try to defend you comment.

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/103 "2008-12-06T12:11:50Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> I can understand if you don’t like Joey, but you don’t call his or anyone’s mom a cunt, then act unapologetic afterwards and try to defend you comment.

im not apologetic… if shes condoning her son fucking over a friend of mine i stand behind my original comment.

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/104 "2008-12-06T12:12:03Z")

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Travis you make the most ridiculous key-points :lol

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**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/105 "2008-12-06T12:12:24Z")

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> [@K20powerz](#):
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> Nah, I’m not going to bother responding to whatever he says. He just acts like he’s got zero time for the forum that he’s on alll the time and **reads 1/4 of a story and jumps to conclusions**. He’s a retard.

Wait so i read jays whole side from what he wrote in the post  
and your whole post.

and no ones comments. 1/4 story? i think not.

all the time? called internet on phone. and shift is my homepage til i fell like switching it.

Guess what,  
Im a retard :cool

If so much shady shit didnt come out of you maybe i wouldnt jump to conclusions.

> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> quite frankly, joey has done nothing beneficial for the community. he rips on people every chance he gets with no regard for his actions and brags

hmmm, i think the same thing of you.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/106 "2008-12-06T12:14:47Z")

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> [@chris88z24](#):
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> Travis you make the most ridiculous key-points :lol

glad you think so

> [@Hooked on 240](#):
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> hmmm, i think the same thing of you.

glad i dont disappoint

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**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/107 "2008-12-06T12:15:15Z")

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To answer Kramer’s question about me not feeling well, no I wasn’t. I was in constant pain due to the cartilage in my shoulder being torn

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**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/108 "2008-12-06T12:15:41Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> glad i dont disappoint

Your welcome. ;D :hug

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/109 "2008-12-06T12:20:35Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> im not apologetic… if shes condoning her son fucking over a friend of mine i stand behind my original comment.

Like I said, I’m neutral on this dilemma and think both parties are equally at fault, you don’t think Jason had any fault in this? And Joey just threw his mom into the convo, like you said, to take some blame off of himself, which I think is a pretty “low” move, because he had no mention of her until 1/2 way through the thread, I think if she actually did play a roll in the transaction (other than her name being on the title), Joey would have brought her up right away.

Bottom line is, one mention of a person’s name should not be motivation to call her a  
cunt.

> [@Code Blue](#):
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> To answer Kramer’s question about me not feeling well, no I wasn’t. I was in constant pain due to the cartilage in my shoulder being torn

Yeah, you seem like the kind of guy that would want to seek something through to completion, didn’t think you would just “forget” to take a test drive. If I had more than one car and if one of them was an auto, it’d be all yours for a month or two :sad

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/110 "2008-12-06T12:26:01Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> Like I said, I’m neutral on this dilemma and think both parties are equally at fault, you don’t think Jason had any fault in this? And Joey just threw his mom into the convo, like you said, to take some blame off of himself, which I think is a pretty “low” move, because he had no mention of her until 1/2 way through the thread, I think if she actually did play a roll in the transaction (other than her name being on the title), Joey would have brought her up right away.
> 
> Bottom line is, one mention of a person’s name should not be motivation to call her a  
> cunt.

read how i worded it. _and **if** your MOM is the driving force behind your scumbaggishness then shes a cunt too._

so am i to assume that by everyone getting bent over this that she WAS the driving force behind it?

there is an IF put in there for a reason… basically saying if it was on her… then theres my thoughts… otherwise… joey gets the blame and i had let my thoughts be known on that repeatedly already

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/111 "2008-12-06T12:28:32Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24](#):
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> Like I said, I’m neutral on this dilemma and think both parties are equally at fault, you don’t think Jason had any fault in this? And Joey just threw his mom into the convo, like you said, to take some blame off of himself, which I think is a pretty “low” move, because he had no mention of her until 1/2 way through the thread, I think if she actually did play a roll in the transaction (other than her name being on the title), Joey would have brought her up right away.
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> Bottom line is, one mention of a person’s name should not be motivation to call her a  
> cunt.

Agree with 100%

and joey, im neutral too, but leaning more towards your fault somewhat bc you offered the problem car, when you knew of these problems. Be respectful, and tell some one, especially your “friend” what the problems of the car are. I for one, would NEVER buy a car off you. im always reading of the lastest beatings from every car you ever driven, the civ/trans am/gtp/etc… i dont know how many times you left sutters “trying” to spin the tires.

you still dont call someone a cunt, especially someone you dont know. LEARN RESPECT. :idiots

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/112 "2008-12-06T12:29:45Z")

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freedom of speech… the constitution, learn it. dont like it… theres the border.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/113 "2008-12-06T12:30:28Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> freedom of speech… the constitution, learn it.

GET A JOB AND A LIFE

LEARN IT BITCH :nana

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/114 "2008-12-06T12:30:33Z")

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> [@d. gage](#):
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> Been doin this here since 99 boi’

i know. and youve always had clean cars/trucks and a good attitude. im not new myself, but i wouldnt consider 01 back in the day like travis does… back in the day is when my father and im sure many other older guys were racing shirley muldowney. if 7-8 years ago is back in the day to travis, he must be very accomplished and moved on to such great things and done so much that this decade seems like light years ago.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/115 "2008-12-06T12:32:20Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> i know. and youve always had clean cars/trucks and a good attitude. im not new myself, but i wouldnt consider 01 back in the day like travis does… back in the day is when my father and im sure many other older guys were racing shirley muldowney. if 7-8 years ago is back in the day to travis, he must be very accomplished and moved on to such great things and done so much that this decade seems like light years ago.

shit has changed so much that the past 8-9 years that yes, its been a bit

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/116 "2008-12-06T12:32:34Z")

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once again travis digs himself a figurative hole, and is on the verge of getting his jaw snapped and now hes back pedaling, quoting himself trying to prove a point that he didnt say something, but he was implying it under circumstances of involvment… travis you really are dumb.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/117 "2008-12-06T12:33:46Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> once again travis digs himself a figurative hole, and is on the verge of getting his jaw snapped and now hes back pedaling, quoting himself trying to prove a point that he didnt say something, but he was implying it under circumstances of involvment… travis you really are dumb.

hardly backpedaling. if she is condoning her son screwing someone like this… i stand behind it 1000%

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/118 "2008-12-06T12:34:37Z")

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dude, how many people have you screwed over in your lifetime?? honestly man. you arent game to talk about being a stand up citizen.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/119 "2008-12-06T12:35:27Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> shit has changed so much that the past 8-9 years that yes, its been a bit

Lets buy a focus :banana

> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> hardly backpedaling.

if you werent youd still me making 1500 a week at pepsi

> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> dude, how many people have you screwed over in your lifetime?? honestly man. you arent game to talk about being a stand up citizen.

News flash!:  
your my hero

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/member-vs-member-thread-is-closed-and-moved/240603/120 "2008-12-06T12:36:03Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> dude, how many people have you screwed over in your lifetime?? honestly man. you arent game to talk about being a stand up citizen.

and you have no basis to talk shit about my personal life…go back to the navy, sailor.

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