# Metal Failure **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 27, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050 "2007-09-27T13:00:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/1 "2007-09-27T13:00:52Z")
Here is a perfect example of what happens when you have metal failure in an engine. Those pieces of material (bearing in this case) travel in suspension in the engine oil being distributed everywhere. Metal suspended in a fluid tends to be abrasive and in time it can damage other parts that depend on oil for lubrication. Oils job is to lubricate, clean, cushion and carry heat away. The oil in this engine can do none of these properly when contaminated with a foreign material such as a rod bearing. Anyone who was ever curious as to what a metal failure looks like and how it can affect other parts of the engine look below. This is the best example I have ever seen in such prestine detail. This is text book quality. ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02301.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02301.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02300.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02300.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02298.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f279/Hybriddon/work/DSC02298.jpg) Finding the root cause of failure is the key to preventing the failure again. This engine lasted 2 years I beleive it was tuned for 8-9 psi originally then a few owners ran it at 15psi untuned and with massive (read, 3" tear in a charge pipe) boost leaks. The theory as to the failure is sand. There is a gritty silica like material in the bottom of the pan, that, and it was reported that the customer was getting on the car with no filter on a turbo on the beachy areas of shirksten (sp?). The failure occoured at idle on the peace bridge. I found a few other interesting things but they could have been contributing factors over time. Bearing surprise!!! ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/2 "2007-09-27T13:02:36Z")
i like to toss metal shaving in with my oil. its like extrude honing all your oil passages. ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/3 "2007-09-27T13:11:49Z")
does this happen to be from a black car?!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/4 "2007-09-27T13:12:26Z")
that stinks, but, glad you found the cause! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/5 "2007-09-27T13:14:39Z")
It is spelled Sherkston, and you wouldn’t believe all the turbo’d imports throwing the R’s and spinning the tires in the sand. I shake my head every time I see it. Cause I am thinking, “sandblasting the inside of the engine clean.” ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/6 "2007-09-27T13:17:32Z")
wait, so sand and metal shavings are not good? i should probably stop drifting at the beach ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/7 "2007-09-27T13:18:25Z")
I get nervous in dirt parking lots (my work) even with a fresh k&n filter. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/8 "2007-09-27T13:19:01Z")
haha. i thought this thread said “mental failure” I was worried you finally snapped. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/9 "2007-09-27T13:23:29Z")
reminds me of the “intake and head porting” x-post on ls1tech. VW kids putting sand in the TB so it would P&P thier intake and head ports :shakeshead: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/10 "2007-09-27T13:28:51Z")
:lol: Why am I not surprised? ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/11 "2007-09-27T13:30:16Z")
my bearing 3 years ago (don’t mind the paper, joestypeS didnt believe me when it happened. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/layzie298/100_0272.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/layzie298/100_0272.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/12 "2007-09-27T13:30:43Z")
sorry for the big picture but you can really see the bearing then. lack of oil and excessive amount of heat during assembly rotation will cause a bearing to look like this. ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/13 "2007-09-27T13:39:13Z")
WOW, i thought my thrust and #1 bearing was bad!.. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/14 "2007-09-27T14:17:40Z")
[quote=“newman,post:8,topic:36050"”] haha. i thought this thread said “mental failure” I was worried you finally snapped. 😃 [/quote] hahahhahhahhahahaha nice.👏 ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/15 "2007-09-27T18:19:28Z")
You know, for something educational about cars. There was alot less interest in this than I expected. Hmmm, that says alot for this community. Now lets all go vote on whether or not we are gonna get married. ---
**Author:** ![540guy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/540guy/32/5052_2.png) [@540guy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/540guy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/16 "2007-09-27T18:28:16Z")
_crys_i suck ---
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/17 "2007-09-27T18:41:17Z")
i thought it was interesting:shrug: ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/18 "2007-09-27T18:45:44Z")
when my shit blows, i wont have to worry about bearings because ill be shooting a rod through the block :carnut: ---
**Author:** ![540guy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/540guy/32/5052_2.png) [@540guy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/540guy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/19 "2007-09-27T18:46:53Z")
o yes get the story right lol, i went to sherkston, and on the way back after doing one pull this happend, i wasent doing pulls in the sand, im not THAT retarded haha ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050/20 "2007-09-27T19:51:08Z")
[quote=“Carnut,post:15,topic:36050"”] You know, for something educational about cars. There was alot less interest in this than I expected. Hmmm, that says alot for this community. Now lets all go vote on whether or not we are gonna get married. [/quote] LOL. ehh, people just want to go fast for free, lacking know-how:meh2: [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/metal-failure/36050.md?page=2)