# Michael Vick in trouble (or The Misadventures of Ron Mexico)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 17, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852 "2007-07-17T15:14:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/121 "2007-08-02T11:24:08Z")

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[quote=“boardjnky4,post:120,topic:32852"”]

i think u have the wrong impression man. There are plenty of ppl involved in dogfighting everywhere. Just cause u dont hear about it, doesnt mean its not there.

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Again, you didn’t read what I said. **Go back and read what I said.** Read everything. Not just the first 3 sentences.

[quote=“boardjnky4,post:120,topic:32852"”]

and as for neutering. I dont disagree that irresponsible pet owners should have pets. I have demonstrated this on many occassions. BUT, shit happens, dogs get out of their yards, escape invisible fences, etc… and if they find their way to the neighbors dog and get busy, u end up with a litter of dogs and no way to get rid of them. It happens often. I have a puppy and he will be getting neutered as soon as he can.

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Yeah shit happens, but if people were more responsible shit happens less. Shit would happen less enough that spaying or neuturing wouldn’t be a necessity.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/122 "2007-08-02T11:31:08Z")

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Have you ever owned an un-neutered male dog when a female dog is nearby and in heat? If he’s anything bigger than a little rat dog, he’ll go right through a door, window, or wall if he has to.

When my mom was a kid they had beagles, and when the female was in heat they moved the pen out to an island a good 300 yards off shore from my grandparents summer place. The male beagle chewed his way out of his pen, swam to the island (the dog normally wouldn’t go near the water) chewed his way into the pen, and got it on.

Sometimes having your pet spayed or neutered is the only responsible option.

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/123 "2007-08-02T11:32:52Z")

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[quote=“Rx3,post:121,topic:32852"”]

Yeah shit happens, but if people were more responsible shit happens less. Shit would happen less enough that spaying or neuturing wouldn’t be a necessity.

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Let’s not confuse things here. Just because a dog has its manhood/womanhood removed does not mean the dog is in pain when this process occurs. It’s the act of pain and punishment that is on the table with dog fighting. You can be the most responsible dog owner and through circumstances beyond your control, your pet can get out of the yard and get his “busy”.

Granted, there is some hypocrisy with this subject vs dog fighting because it’s still removing a living piece of an animal but if there is no pain and it does not restrict the dog’s ability to live and function, I don’t see it being on the table with dog fighting.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/124 "2007-08-02T12:21:20Z")

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My dog was neutered at Georgetown. They put him under, snip snip, you pick him up the next day. If was so traumatic for him I wonder why he still loves going to the vet and all the people there. It was only traumatic for my wallet.

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/125 "2007-08-02T12:32:42Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:122,topic:32852"”]

Have you ever owned an un-neutered male dog when a female dog is nearby and in heat? .

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Yes. He was a German Shepard, and he never did anything reckless around any dogs, male of female, in heat or otherwise.

[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:123,topic:32852"”]

Let’s not confuse things here. Just because a dog has its manhood/womanhood removed does not mean the dog is in pain when this process occurs…

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Just because the dog wasn’t in pain doesn’t mean it is any less cruel.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/126 "2007-08-02T12:40:29Z")

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[quote=“Rx3,post:125,topic:32852"”]

Yes. He was a German Shepard, and he never did anything reckless around any dogs, male of female, in heat or otherwise.

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He was probably just gay and that’s why he wasn’t affected by the female pheromones. 😉

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**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/127 "2007-08-02T12:51:05Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:122,topic:32852"”]

they moved the pen out to an island a good 300 yards off shore from my grandparents summer place.

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That island didn’t happen to be called Pen Island, did it?

[quote=“Rx3,post:125,topic:32852"”]

Just because the dog wasn’t in pain doesn’t mean it is any less cruel.

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I think it’s more cruel to have 80 billion stray dogs running around, getting hit by cars, eating out of garbage cans, etc. Domesticated animal populations absolutely need to be controlled.

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**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/128 "2007-08-02T12:53:48Z")

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[quote=“Rx3,post:125,topic:32852"”]

Just because the dog wasn’t in pain doesn’t mean it is any less cruel.

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I think it’s more cruel to have 80 billion stray dogs running around, getting hit by cars, eating out of garbage cans, etc. Domesticated animal populations absolutely need to be controlled.

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/129 "2007-08-02T13:10:38Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:126,topic:32852"”]

He was probably just gay and that’s why he wasn’t affected by the female pheromones. 😉

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hahah 🙂 I sure hope not.

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/130 "2007-08-02T13:24:13Z")

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How can you consider something cruel if there is no feeling affected by it?

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/131 "2007-08-02T13:27:11Z")

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[quote=“Bigairskier1580,post:130,topic:32852"”]

How can you consider something cruel if there is no feeling affected by it?

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Please tell me you’re not serious.

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/132 "2007-08-02T13:48:55Z")

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No, I’m honestly serious?

How is it anymore cruel than having stray dogs, picking thu garbage and starving running around because a simple pain-free procedure wasn’t done.

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**Author:** ![djames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@djames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djames)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/133 "2007-08-20T12:07:05Z")

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Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has accepted a plea deal in his federal dogfighting case. NFL Network’s Adam Schefter is reporting the agreement calls for a 10-12 month prison sentence.

Goodbye you piece of trash loser.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/134 "2007-08-20T12:10:44Z")

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will he be banned from the nfl?

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/135 "2007-08-20T12:14:58Z")

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I bet he will be suspended for like a year from the NFL after he serves time.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/136 "2007-08-20T12:15:26Z")

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link?

and, involvement will = lifetime ban per player conduct rules IIRC

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**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/137 "2007-08-20T12:17:52Z")

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i know what i want to be for halloween…

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/138 "2007-08-20T12:18:42Z")

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who let the dogs out

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/139 "2007-08-20T12:19:50Z")

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my bro has been vick 3 years running for halloween :lol:

he’ll be back in better (prison) condition

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/michael-vick-in-trouble-or-the-misadventures-of-ron-mexico/32852/140 "2007-08-20T12:20:18Z")

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Ron Mexico, you are a bad man. I sentence you to a period of no less than 10 months in a federal, pound me in the ass prison.

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