# Military is ‘baiting’ insurgents in Iraq

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 24, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865 "2007-09-24T09:57:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/1 "2007-09-24T09:57:52Z")

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Two opinions:

The fact that the media is broadcasting this is fucking :bloated:  
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This doctrine is proactive, and I like it. But too aggressive? No other ROE then “he picked up some 12ga wire… weapons free”?

[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20947008/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20947008/)

> A Pentagon group has encouraged some U.S. military snipers in Iraq to target suspected insurgents by scattering pieces of “bait,” such as detonation cords, plastic explosives and ammunition, and then killing Iraqis who pick up the items, according to military court documents.

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**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/2 "2007-09-24T10:02:02Z")

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i like it :tup:

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/3 "2007-09-24T10:03:58Z")

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It makes things very clear, touch weapons and die. Fuck just start treating the insurgents like they treat us. Put remote detonators on them with a 5ft kill radius.

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/4 "2007-09-24T10:04:16Z")

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no complaints here… bout time we start fighting dirty like them… but its not going to last too long, theyll pick up on it

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**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/5 "2007-09-24T10:05:17Z")

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why not track where they bring this shit to?

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/6 "2007-09-24T10:06:36Z")

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:5,topic:35865"”]

why not track where they bring this shit to?

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most of the time they take it, bury it all over the place and go get it during nights and other times when theyre not visible to others

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/7 "2007-09-24T10:07:02Z")

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Great idea. I like the tracking as well. Then blow up the building.

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/8 "2007-09-24T10:09:55Z")

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wow…

**Military is ‘baiting’ insurgents in Iraq**

**Snipers describe classified program**

😕:gotme:

sometimes i hate the media… (i didnt click the link till now)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/9 "2007-09-24T10:12:09Z")

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Great plan, right up until some dipshit sells the story to the press, and the press has absolutely zero ethics and thinks it’s a good idea to carry the story.

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**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/10 "2007-09-24T10:28:06Z")

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^^^ We are stupid as a country. Then for drama the media paint’s it to be a bad thing because more people will read/watch. urg.

Edit: Maybe we should use video camera’s as bait over there…

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/11 "2007-09-24T10:33:34Z")

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This is getting absurd. The last thing our soldiers need is to hesitate when someone’s sneaking up on their sleeping team in the night for fear of being charged with murder.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/12 "2007-09-24T10:34:49Z")

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The baiting thing doesn’t add up. The story makes it out like they’re leaving rifle clips on the sidewalk and then shooting anyone who bends over to pick it up.

Story put out by the army to try and scare Iraqi rebels into not moving weaponry?

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/13 "2007-09-24T10:49:04Z")

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Hahahaha thats awesome.

This is a higher level lesson that parents teach their kids…don’t pick up shit on the ground.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/14 "2007-09-24T13:31:22Z")

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:5,topic:35865"”]

why not track where they bring this shit to?

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my second thought.

[quote=“BikerFry,post:12,topic:35865"”]

The baiting thing doesn’t add up. The story makes it out like they’re leaving rifle clips on the sidewalk and then shooting anyone who bends over to pick it up.

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my first thought.

annnnd, what about the friendly who is picking something up to turn it in?

IB4"There Are No Good Iraqis" :roll2:

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/15 "2007-09-24T16:25:43Z")

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[quote=“Nikuk,post:14,topic:35865"”]

IB4There Are No Good Iraqis :roll2:

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Too late.

Zing!

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/16 "2007-09-24T16:37:06Z")

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go order some pizza

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/17 "2007-09-24T16:43:03Z")

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Want a slice?

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/18 "2007-09-24T17:01:50Z")

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[quote=“BikerFry,post:17,topic:35865"”]

Want a slice?

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sure. meet yah @ noco there.

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**Author:** ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/military-is-baiting-insurgents-in-iraq/35865/19 "2007-09-24T18:31:18Z")

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Here’s a better solution. How about they all just leave? Quit wasting my tax money and making the execs at KBR rich.
