# minimum wage increase **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/minimum-wage-increase/265730 "2012-12-12T07:55:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 46
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/minimum-wage-increase/265730/46 "2012-12-13T14:32:27Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/1574): > > If you’re 17 just be happy you have a job. When I was 17 I too worked at McDonald’s and then at a car dealership as a detailer. Your problem is you seem to expect that you’re going to earn a lot of money as a kid, which you’re not. > > I disagree with the entire concept of a minimum wage. It gives people a false sense of self worth which contributes to the “I deserve everything I want” society that we now have. Go to Arby’s right now and you will see people working that are worth $8-10/hour, and you will also see people who if they were paid by their production and true value would be lucky to get $2. If pay was based on production and true values, CEO’s would be broke. Minimum wage has nothing to do with people being lazy, not appreciating their job or not working hard, it’s a safety net to allow to people to survive and stay out of poverty. I’ve seen some very hard working people work for minimum wage and I’ve seen bums, however lazy bums are much rarer as at any job that hires you for minimum wage, typically hires you for physical ability and not mental and expects every dollar out of you and work every minute. I’m not sure what the poverty line is now, but at ~$14/15K (what it is now) - minus taxes a year working full time on minimum wage, you’re pretty damn close to it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/minimum-wage-increase/265730)._