# Mitchell Report - Released! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 13, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216 "2007-12-13T10:27:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/21 "2007-12-13T11:29:56Z")
call me crazy but i must be the only one that doesn’t have a problem with them taking whatever the hell they want, except for the ones that broke laws to do so. If there’s still just as much work involved, but you just get a lot more out of it by taking a supplement, IMO it’s stupid to prevent people from doing so. You don’t just take the stuff and wake up jacked and coordinated. It only allows you to break through some of the barriers that nature puts up that hard work won’t let you break through. I don’t expect anyone else to share my opinion, but i’m the type that tries to use every possible advantage that isn’t strictly forbidden. If you got a prescription or used non-controlled substances and managed to compete in the major leagues, good for you for being innovative. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/22 "2007-12-13T11:33:29Z")
ok so what about sammy sosa using a corked bat? ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/23 "2007-12-13T11:35:23Z")
Here is every name in the Mitchell report that has a sub-section. This does NOT include people like Karchner, who were witnesses interviewed but never took steroids(they are being erreonesosly included on some lists b/c their name appears in a footnote) ANABOLIC STEROIDS Marvin Bernard Barry Bonbs Bobby Estalella Jason Giambi Jeremy Giambi Benito Santiago Gary Sheffield Randy Velarde Lenndy Dykstra David Segui Larry Bigbie Brian Roberts Jack Cust Tim Laker Josias Manzanillo Todd Hundley Mark Carreon Hal Morris Matt Franco Rondell White Roger Clemens Chuck Knoblauch Jason Grimsley Greg Zaun David Justice F.P. Santangelo Glenallen Hill Mo Vaughn Denny Neagle Ron Villone Ryan Franklin Chris Donnels Todd Williams Phill Hiatt Todd Pratt Kevin Young Mike Lansing Cody McKay Kent Mercker Adam Piatt Miguel Tejada Jason CHristiansen Mike Stanton Rick Ankiel Paul Bird Jay Gibbons Tros Glaus Steven Randolph Jerry Hairston Jr Paul Lo Duca Adam Riggs Briam Miadich Fernando Vina Kevin Brown Eric Gagne Mike Bell Matt Herges Gary Bennet Jr. Jim Parque Brenan Donnelly Chad Allen Jeff Williams Howie Clark Nook Logan HGH Andy Pettite Dan Naulty Jose Guillen Gary Matthews Jr Scott Schoeneweis Jose Canseco Jason Grimsley Darren Holmes John Rocker Ismael Valdez MAtt Williams Steve Woodaward David Bell Darren Holmes John Rocker ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/24 "2007-12-13T11:36:39Z")
In this case, my first impulse would be to let everyone use a corked bat. Because it would upset the balance of the game too much in favor of the hitters, banning corked bats is ok with me. This stuff helps both hitters and pitchers. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/25 "2007-12-13T11:37:24Z")
lol Chuck Knoblauch so steroids make u forget how to throw to first huh ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/26 "2007-12-13T11:51:17Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:25,topic:40216"”] lol Chuck Knoblauch so steroids make u forget how to throw to first huh [/quote] hahaha steriods only helps rebuild muscle cells, not brain cells chuck! ---
**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/27 "2007-12-13T12:17:57Z")
NOOOo, say it aint soo…Raul Modesi was my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/28 "2007-12-13T12:27:15Z")
[quote=“turbo ls1 ss,post:12,topic:40216"”] so what happens to these guys [/quote] TBD, but Mitchell has recommended to Selig that no future disciplinery action be taken in regards to past events. ---
**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/29 "2007-12-13T13:58:07Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:20,topic:40216"”] Fixed. [/quote] LMAO ---
**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/30 "2007-12-13T14:00:12Z")
wow john rocker is on that list twice so true ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/31 "2007-12-13T14:03:21Z")
lol omg rocker was a mess, im suprised he didnt kill someone while he was playing. ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/32 "2007-12-13T14:21:37Z")
LOL @ the names on there. Felix Heredia? Knoblauch? Haha ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/33 "2007-12-13T14:22:48Z")
pujols isnt in the espn list… neither is johnny damon. ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/34 "2007-12-13T14:24:25Z")
who cares… i know ATLEAST 3 people on this site that have used steroids and i would bet if you threw each one of um 100 baseballs at MLB speeds they’d be lucky to get a handfull of good hits let alone home runs. The drugs didnt give them the skill to play the game, practice did. This is like saying that you should take away college degrees from any student that used adderall when staying up all night to study b/c they " cheated". ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/35 "2007-12-13T14:31:03Z")
i just don’t really care about this ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/36 "2007-12-13T14:34:36Z")
[quote=“91CRXSI,post:34,topic:40216"”] who cares… i know ATLEAST 3 people on this site that have used steroids and i would bet if you threw each one of um 100 baseballs at MLB speeds they’d be lucky to get a handfull of good hits let alone home runs. The drugs didnt give them the skill to play the game, practice did. This is like saying that you should take away college degrees from any student that used adderall when staying up all night to study b/c they " cheated". [/quote] that is the absolute worst analogy i have every heard. honestly. how can you make a statement like that. let me refute every single point you attempted to make: 1. i dont care who took steroids on this website, it has no bearing on this argument. 2. practice gives hitters the skill to square up on a ball and drive their hips through, generating power. proper technique and practice (with talent) provide a repeatable motion to hit. HOWEVER!!! steroid use and illegal performance enhancers enable a professional hit to hit HARDER and hit for greater DISTANCE. you are unintelligent if you think that barry bonds didnt have greater batspeed, or that gary sheffield didnt have freakish ability to turn his hips through and generate supernatural power when pulling the ball. 3. here is how your analogy would have been correct: “This is like saying that you should take away college degrees from any student that used CHEAT SHEETS WHILE TAKING TESTS”. using steroids put pitchers, fielders, and hitters at a distinct ILLEGAL competitive advantage over everyone else. why do you fail to see this distinction? Work out. lift waits. treat your body like an income producing asset. but doing something illegal that puts you at a competitive advantage to everyone else is CHEATING. plain and simple. i want to get rich quick, but i dont go out and rob banks. i wanted to get a 4.0 in school, but instead of cheating to get it, i took my 3.6 and was happy. in high school when i played ball, i would have loved to be a power hitter. but instead, i was a singles and doubles guy, and i was happy. bottom line is, cheaters fucking suck. if you justify cheating, you probably do it to rationalize the fact that you cheat at shit. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/37 "2007-12-13T14:34:37Z")
who cares, baseball sucks anyways ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/38 "2007-12-13T14:48:19Z")
[quote=“91CRXSI,post:34,topic:40216"”] who cares… i know ATLEAST 3 people on this site that have used steroids and i would bet if you threw each one of um 100 baseballs at MLB speeds they’d be lucky to get a handfull of good hits let alone home runs. The drugs didnt give them the skill to play the game, practice did. This is like saying that you should take away college degrees from any student that used adderall when staying up all night to study b/c they " cheated". [/quote] lol u really have no clue do you? ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/39 "2007-12-13T15:00:03Z")
i said clemens months ago. to all the doubters heres your proof. ---
**Author:** ![3LacK\_Label](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/3lack_label/32/5157_2.png) [@3LacK\_Label](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/3LacK_Label)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/40 "2007-12-13T15:23:48Z")
[quote=“Joe,post:21,topic:40216"”] call me crazy but i must be the only one that doesn’t have a problem with them taking whatever the hell they want, except for the ones that broke laws to do so. If there’s still just as much work involved, but you just get a lot more out of it by taking a supplement, IMO it’s stupid to prevent people from doing so. You don’t just take the stuff and wake up jacked and coordinated. It only allows you to break through some of the barriers that nature puts up that hard work won’t let you break through. I don’t expect anyone else to share my opinion, but i’m the type that tries to use every possible advantage that isn’t strictly forbidden. If you got a prescription or used non-controlled substances and managed to compete in the major leagues, good for you for being innovative. [/quote] agree 100% well said [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216.md?page=3)