# Modded-Volkswagen Kids Suck **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 14, 2007, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874 "2007-06-14T07:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/41 "2007-06-16T15:09:14Z")
JJ speaks the truth. My 96 jetta is a nice DD that i paid hardly anything for and gets amazing MPG I wont buy anything newer than that though from VW. They just dont do it for me ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/42 "2007-06-16T15:25:06Z")
In my opinion VWs are good for daily drivers and that’s it. If I here one more VW guy talk about limp mode I’m gonna hit em in the dick so they know what limp mode really is. VW = nice dailys, not mod toys. No where else in the automotive world will a single chip accomodate 900 different combinations of modifications. WHAT THE FUCK IS STAGE 3 ANYWAYS. $10 TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO CAN DEFINE IT AND HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN JACK SHIT BETWEEN ANY OTHER COMPANIES. FUCKING THANK YOU GRAN TURISMO, YOU RUINED A GENERATION. ---
**Author:** ![Griff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Griff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Griff)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/43 "2007-06-16T17:58:14Z")
[quote=“Carnut,post:42,topic:30874"”] In my opinion VWs are good for daily drivers and that’s it. If I here one more VW guy talk about limp mode I’m gonna hit em in the dick so they know what limp mode really is. VW = nice dailys, not mod toys. No where else in the automotive world will a single chip accomodate 900 different combinations of modifications. WHAT THE FUCK IS STAGE 3 ANYWAYS. $10 TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO CAN DEFINE IT AND HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN JACK SHIT BETWEEN ANY OTHER COMPANIES. FUCKING THANK YOU GRAN TURISMO, YOU RUINED A GENERATION. [/quote] Thank You! When i got my s4 all i read about was stage 3 and stage 3+ … seriously, that shit was annoying. if you want to blow up your vw then do so without the stage bs ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/44 "2007-06-17T00:24:50Z")
dood I got a stage 4 turbine kit, it cost 45,000 GT dollars, tripled my horsepower and dont have to worry about vdub reliablity because its GT!. yay ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/45 "2007-06-17T08:59:33Z")
[quote=“double j,post:40,topic:30874"”] Although there are a few minor exceptions, I will probably never buy another VW again unless it is a diesel. I have now owned 8 VW/Audi products and quite frankly, I’m burned out. Also, I will NEVER own a FWD 1.8t. I hate them with such an intense passion, mostly due to their lame scene. [/quote] What if Honda or Subaru bring their diesels here? Will you throw a party!? ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/46 "2007-06-17T09:02:00Z")
[quote=“RedGoober4Life,post:45,topic:30874"”] What if Honda or Subaru bring their diesels here? Will you throw a party!? [/quote] I’ll go Honda Diesel FTW :headbang: ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/47 "2007-06-17T11:24:28Z")
[quote=“RedGoober4Life,post:45,topic:30874"”] What if Honda or Subaru bring their diesels here? Will you throw a party!? [/quote] Haha, I might. If they are available when it is time to part with the Beetle, I am going to strongly consider them. ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@BIG\_E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BIG_E)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/48 "2007-06-17T13:31:06Z")
[quote=“double j,post:40,topic:30874"”] Although there are a few minor exceptions, I will probably never buy another VW again unless it is a diesel. I have now owned 8 VW/Audi products and quite frankly, I’m burned out. [/quote] agreed. im burned out. and vws are slow and gay, who would own one:gay: ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/49 "2007-06-17T18:45:04Z")
[quote=“newman,post:29,topic:30874"”] i’m just playin witch yall [/quote] nothing better in my book than a VR-T powered MKI GTi :shrug: i plan on building 1 in the future when i have the money for a proper VR build VR series motors sound like fukkking seccccs and produce some very good power if properly built(tho im sure u already know this) ---
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/50 "2007-06-17T18:45:50Z")
[quote=“newman,post:3,topic:30874"”] suck it. did you sell that POS yet? [/quote] SOOOOOOOLD ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/51 "2007-06-17T19:17:59Z")
[quote=“SoloIIscoob,post:49,topic:30874"”] VR series motors sound like fukkking seccccs and produce some very good power if properly built(tho im sure u already know this) [/quote] :word: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OafCq1izXE) [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/f/9f7f7aa1a4b4d701ee7744eae43549cb95801536.jpeg "vr6 Turbo mk3 12 second quarter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOme--6hrGw) \<8 ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/52 "2007-06-17T19:46:51Z")
[quote=“Carnut,post:42,topic:30874"”] WHAT THE FUCK IS STAGE 3 ANYWAYS. $10 TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO CAN DEFINE IT AND HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN JACK SHIT BETWEEN ANY OTHER COMPANIES. FUCKING THANK YOU GRAN TURISMO, YOU RUINED A GENERATION. [/quote] I thought you just had to race around until you unlocked it? ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/53 "2007-06-17T19:58:19Z")
vr6’s are awesome. i loved my car, i sounded so mean and was a blast to drive. but it broke all the time. never left me stranded though… this is my favorite vr6. [http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lb7p9M2-mBg](http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lb7p9M2-mBg) and here is a youtube vid i took of my old car. ☹ i remember the first day it took it out of winter storage, i was driving it back to my parents house… i got some gas and took a turn in the village of hamburg and got on it hard. this old guy walking down the street nearly jumped out of his skin. vr’s scream with intake and exhaust. i really feel like mk3’s were the end of an era for vws. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/54 "2007-06-17T20:04:11Z")
[quote=“Retarded Kid”"] i’m actually looking at doing a full VR6 swap. do you need to swap in a computer aswell? is it alot of work to do the swap? [/quote] I lolled, cool car though. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/55 "2007-06-17T20:05:56Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:54,topic:30874"”] I lolled, cool car though. [/quote] hahah the response to that is equally as awesome > [@smartass](#): > > Nah its really easy, take 6 or 7 minutes probably. Just make sure you put in a computer, I have an old PC if u wanna buy it, pentium 2. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/56 "2007-06-17T20:08:58Z")
Yeah that was quite the witty comment. Though I find it most impressive that he implemented the full ABS functions from doing the swap also. From which I would assume that means quite a bit of suspension work involving parts from the donor car. Quite a work of art, very impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/57 "2007-06-17T20:30:27Z")
For conventional V6, a narrow 15° Vee angle would have required extraordinarily large spray angle between split crank pins, hence special strengthening. However, in contrast to many believes, VR6’s crankshaft is more like an inline-6. It has 7 main bearings and independent crank throws for each cylinder, (this is possible because VR6 is longer than a conventional V6), thus avoid the crank pin problem.Don’t think a 15° V6 must generate a lot of vibration ! on the contrary, the VR6 is inherently a well-balanced configuration because it is nearly identical to an inline-6, just differs from the latter by a very narrow angle separating each pair of 3 cylinders. As a result, it generates no end-to-end vibration like conventional V6s and is actually nearly as smooth as an inline-6. ![http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/vr6_insight.jpg](http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/vr6_insight.jpg) **Cut-away VR6. Note the 7-main bearing crankshaft**![http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/w12_block.jpg](http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/w12_block.jpg) **W12’s cylinder block**![http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/w12_crank.jpg](http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/w12_crank.jpg) **W12’s crankshaft. Note the** **slightly split crank pins** If VR6 is a version of inline-6, then W12 must be a version of V12. It is made by mating two VR6 at 72°. The corresponding cylinders in different banks share the same split crank pins. Thanks to the 72° V-angle, the splay angle between split crank pins can be so small that no additional strengthening is required. (see photo) You know, the short engine with 7 main bearings can hardly find space to add strengthened flying webs between the split crank pins. W16 is identical to W12 except that each bank consists of 4 cylinders instead of 3. In other words, it is made from 2 VR8 engines. ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2007, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/58 "2007-06-18T07:07:06Z")
[quote=“SoloIIscoob,post:49,topic:30874"”] nothing better in my book than a VR-T powered MKI GTi :shrug: i plan on building 1 in the future when i have the money for a proper VR build VR series motors sound like fukkking seccccs and produce some very good power if properly built(tho im sure u already know this) [/quote] why would you put that in a mk 1? ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2007, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/59 "2007-06-18T11:42:07Z")
[quote=“Dex,post:58,topic:30874"”] why would you put that in a mk 1? [/quote] [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/d/adbe31e33309b9cf033dfcf1258d57bfe43f29dd.jpeg "Fast Rabbit") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9UOMj4uXKk) ^^this is why ---
**Author:** ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874/60 "2007-06-18T13:05:58Z")
That video is of a built to the heavens 2.0 16vT. Ive seen the build threads and probably 10 other videos of that rabbit. A vr6 in a rabbit is retarded, requires a lot of fab and customizing, and imho there are 3 other swaps id rather do before the vr6. I had a mkII 4door jetta with a stock vr6 swap and that car was stupid nose heavy, under any heavy twisties it would start acting up. I couldn’t imagine in a 500lb lighter car. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modded-volkswagen-kids-suck/30874.md?page=4)