# More auto food for thought

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/41 "2012-03-12T10:54:45Z")

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yep. Or the people running out selling their 10 year old 4 cylinder 25mpg car like a MK4 VW for example… then going to the dealer and getting a brand new TDi, “This gets me 40mpg easy, ill save so much money”.

250 miles a week, 1000 miles a month.

40 gals of gas or 25 in fuel.

$151.60 in gas $107.25 in fuel.

Unless that car payment is $44.35 a month… your a fucking retard for selling yourself on that deal!

it would take 37.5 years (assuming its a 20K car) to break even on that one! hahahahahaha

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/42 "2012-03-12T10:58:17Z")

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Yea, except MKIV’s aren’t known for their reliable electrical systems. (Re: Non-TDI)

Seen some major MKIV piles. $$$ costly repairs

Honda on the other hand, yea dumb.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/43 "2012-03-12T11:03:31Z")

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Exactly… the point is buying cars for mpgs alone is stupid. Resale is by far the most important aspect to me. Bryan has the right idea with his fancy supras

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/44 "2012-03-12T11:19:55Z")

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> [@touch screen blackberry what?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/touch-screen-blackberry-what/48606/8):
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> Exactly… the point is buying cars for mpgs alone is stupid. Resale is by far the most important aspect to me. Bryan has the right idea with his fancy supras

Still, even if you outright buy the new TDi you arent saving anything monthly. Say you bought it outright for $25K. and keep it 2 years. Then say it held its value like a champ… and you sold it for $18K. So you effectively you spent $7000 in 2 years on owning the car or $291 a mo. Instead of buying a $5K car and SCRAPPING it in 2 years. (difference of 2K or $83.33 a month) You are still loosing money on the deal.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/45 "2012-03-12T11:23:44Z")

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By good resale I’m referring to used cars. Losing 1-2k tops on sale price is much more important than +5mpg. Unless you keep the car for 20 years.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/46 "2012-03-12T11:26:01Z")

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> [@touch screen blackberry what?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/touch-screen-blackberry-what/48606/8):
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> Exactly… the point is buying cars for mpgs alone is stupid. Resale is by far the most important aspect to me. Bryan has the right idea with his fancy supras

I don’t typically lose money on used car purchases, but again cars are not _typically_ good investments.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/47 "2012-03-12T11:50:55Z")

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> [@touch screen blackberry what?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/touch-screen-blackberry-what/48606/11):
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> I don’t typically lose money on used car purchases, but again cars are not _typically_ good investments.

you also are not buying new off the showroom.

Even CPO is a crap shoot at selling after a few years of use and mileage for what you bought it for.

“Gently” used, IE 1-3 years 25-65Kmi AT the time of sale, is the only shot in hell at making it happen. And thats finding a steal of a car. Normal car that is. NOT a collector type car.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/48 "2012-03-12T13:16:09Z")

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Buying new is retarded. I have never done that. I did buy a demo car with 6kmi on it, didn’t lose money on that either.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/49 "2012-03-12T13:21:31Z")

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My truck keeps track of how much gas (in gallons) its used since new.  
I just rolled over 51K miles. I don’t even…

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**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/50 "2012-03-12T13:22:22Z")

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Bought my fit new. Will never buy new again. Luckily they hold their value like crazy so I only took a really small hit when I traded it

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/51 "2012-03-12T16:58:03Z")

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I’m keeping my Corolla until an expensive repair does it in for good…and then it will be replaced with another Corolla.

KK hit it on the head. Payments FTL when it comes to saving fuel (and the collision insurance that comes along with that payment, that is very often forgot about in these discussions).

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/52 "2012-03-12T17:09:33Z")

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I wanna buy a brand new tdi.

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**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/53 "2012-03-12T17:21:22Z")

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> [@Beat, Contain, Destroy Forum Game](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/beat-contain-destroy-forum-game/48598/15):
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> It is true. I am still amazed that SUVs are not a thing of the past that we look back and laugh about yet. $4.00 a gallon getting 12 to 15MPG would make me extremely broke. I drive about 300 Miles a week so that would average out to about $100 a week in gas for one of those things. $400 a month… Lot o money…

problem is some people need that kind of vehicle. Do I like filling up my dmax at 4.50 a gallon and the crappy winter milage, hell no. However I can’t put sheets of plywood and 2-4 in a civic.

> [@Beat, Contain, Destroy Forum Game](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/beat-contain-destroy-forum-game/48598/17):
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> Carbed no.
> 
> EFI, yes.
> 
> See LSx or LS1 swapped 2wd t56 2.93’s. That thing would practically idle itself down the highway at 75mph.
> 
> Infact. I have a TC getting put back together to sell, then fixing my stock MK4 jetta to sell. First one of those that goes, I am buying a 94 S10, 2wd and putting a 4.6LSX in it, 4l60 and a 2.93 or smaller rear end it it for a daily. I want to see 30mpg highway from it. thats the goal. Pass people at the pumps, and say good by to ODB2 inspections every year too, hello cheap insurance, and have a fun sleeper too.

North Star swap in S10? Also for MPGs stick with a T56 way better gear spread and the double overdrive

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/54 "2012-03-12T18:37:49Z")

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Even better than people trading in trucks and suv’s on a 4 cylinder car are the people who think its a great idea to buy another car to save gas when they have a truck or suv.

Somehow they think paying for 2 vehicles, insuring 2 vehicles and putting gas in 2 vehicles saves them money on gas.

I see it alot on the F150 sites.

Id rather just drive my truck and put a little more gas in it than own 2 vehicles.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/55 "2012-03-12T19:12:28Z")

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> [@WTB: third gen camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-third-gen-camaro/48394/6):
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> Even better than people trading in trucks and suv’s on a 4 cylinder car are the people who think its a great idea to buy another car to save gas when they have a truck or suv.
> 
> Somehow they think paying for 2 vehicles, insuring 2 vehicles and putting gas in 2 vehicles saves them money on gas.
> 
> I see it alot on the F150 sites.
> 
> Id rather just drive my truck and put a little more gas in it than own 2 vehicles.

People make decisions all too often based on instant satisfaction. In this case, it’s the satisfaction of spending less at the pump when overlooking the additional costs of multiple vehicles.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/56 "2012-03-13T05:38:38Z")

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Yea, but some people also don’t want to drive a dumper 90% of the time.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/57 "2012-03-13T05:47:12Z")

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Ive been there, done that with the cheap old shitboxes and dont want to go back there again.

I do plan on keeping the truck for a while though. Ive got 3 years left of payments and I just want to not have a car payment for a while after that.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/58 "2012-03-13T05:48:18Z")

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> [@stratus scheduled maintence?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stratus-scheduled-maintence/48607/8):
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> Yea, but some people also don’t want to drive a dumper 90% of the time.

Then they don’t get to complain about costs of operating the vehicle they _wanted_.

Unless they live in the own little ignorant world and you _want_ to be in an Suv/new car/sports car but you refuse to aknowledge the operating costs and MPG that comes with it.

TurboTravis is exactly right. He doesn’t _want_ to drive the Corolla all the time, but it takes care of his needs which is the important and logical parts.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/59 "2012-03-13T06:26:42Z")

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> [@2008 Buffalo Bandits Playoffs Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-buffalo-bandits-playoffs-thread/47757/50):
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> Then they don’t get to complain about costs of operating the vehicle they _wanted_.
> 
> **Unless they live in the own little ignorant world and you _want_ to be in an Suv/new car/sports car but you refuse to aknowledge the operating costs and MPG that comes with it.**
> 
> TurboTravis is exactly right. He doesn’t _want_ to drive the Corolla all the time, but it takes care of his needs which is the important and logical parts.

If someone buys a new car, then complains about the operating costs, that’s their own fucking problem. That’s like me going out and buying a new GTR, then complaining that I’m broke and can’t afford my bills. Makes no sense. It’s called financial responsibility. People don’t live within their means.

There’s a happy medium though. I just like having a decent car if I’m driving it 90% of the time.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/60 "2012-03-13T06:30:38Z")

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Anybody that owns a car that requires 93 doesn’t get to complain about gas :lol

Those people remind me of kids that want a dog, but don’t want to feed, clean up, walk or take care of it.

A nice daily is definitely a good thing to own and is justified in many ways, but anything “nice” is rarely a very cost efficient option.

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