# More auto food for thought

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/81 "2012-03-14T19:40:45Z")

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sometimes though a car payment is better than constant repairs on a shitty old beater.

I was there with the Blazer I had. I kept having to make unexpected repairs to it like replacing the motor for $1400 and then having the transmission start slipping and pissing fluid a month later. Instead of dumping atleast another $1000 into it to fix that on top of other things it needed at the time I traded it in on a brand new car and had just a $252 a month payment with a full warranty.

As I was looking for a new car the heater core in the Blazer popped. Another $500 or so repair needed. Basically I couldve saved money making a year’s worth of payments on the new car than if I fixed everything on the Blazer and being the POS that it was who knows what else wouldve broke/blown over time.

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### Author: ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/82 "2012-03-14T19:44:05Z")

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Anyone that’s in the market for MPG and buys a new vehicle is clueless.

Say someone buy’s a new Jetta TDI for 21K that gets 42MPG on the highway vs. someone that buys a clean 2005 Corolla for 8K that gets 34MPG on the highway.

That leaves you 13K in the hole to make up to start saving money on fuel.

13K of fuel@4 dollars a gallon is 3250 gallons of fuel, which will get you WELL over 130K miles…

You get the point. Buying new for fuel costs is just stupid. At the national driving average, it’d take about 10 years to break even and start ‘making’ money on your purchase.

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/83 "2012-03-14T19:45:05Z")

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Cause you bought a stupid beater.

Ask Travis about his corolla.

My Subaru has been great as well.

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/84 "2012-03-14T19:45:57Z")

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42 mpg on $4.10 gas and 34 mpg on $3.90 gas probably come pretty close to evening out. Im too lazy/bad at math to figure it out exactly though.

The Blazer was my daily driver, not a beater. I bought it with 113k in '04 and it was a '96. Newer than both of your daily driver/beaters with less miles.

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### Author: ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/85 "2012-03-14T19:46:07Z")

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> [@BMW Meet June 14th - Gauging interest.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-meet-june-14th-gauging-interest/48662/5):
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> Cause you bought a stupid beater.
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> Ask Travis about his corolla.
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> My Subaru has been great as well.

I’d jump in my Corolla and drive it to CA right now with NO hesitations other than just checking the fluids/tire pressures, which I’d do in any vehicle before a long trip. There is a difference between a cosmetic beater and a mechanical (and cosmetic) beater.

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/86 "2012-03-14T19:52:03Z")

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> [@Little garbage problem in Naples](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/little-garbage-problem-in-naples/48639/20):
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> 42 mpg on $4.10 gas and 34 mpg on $3.90 gas probably come pretty close to evening out. Im too lazy/bad at math to figure it out exactly though.
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> The Blazer was my daily driver, not a beater. I bought it with 113k in '04 and it was a '96. Newer than both of your daily driver/beaters with less miles.

Fine stupid daily.

How is a '96 newer than a '98? :facepalm

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/87 "2012-03-14T19:55:13Z")

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At the time it wasnt as old. 8 years old then (mine) vs 14 years old now (yours).

I had a few beaters like my '89 S10 that I drove for 7 months and 11k and only needed a radiator ($75 for it and two doors) and an ignition switch ($20) and my '96 Neon that seemed to have blown the headgasket the day I took it off the road (wouldve been expensive to fix). I parked it on the grass and sold it within 24 hours without mentioning the oil leak. During the time I had the Neon it needed a few repairs like the starter that fell out and broke and the radiator I put a hole in while replacing the starter but nothing too serious.

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/88 "2012-03-14T19:58:02Z")

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Not everyone wants to drive an outdated and/or used car. Thus buying a new car with fuel economy in mind actually isn’t that bad of an idea.

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/89 "2012-03-14T20:02:28Z")

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Back when I dumped the Blazer I wanted a car that got better mpg and the car got almost double the mpg.

Then I decided I wanted a truck 3.5 years later and the mpg got cut in half.

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/90 "2012-03-14T20:05:17Z")

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> [@FS:womens ring.diamond 1/2ct 10k](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-womens-ring-diamond-1-2ct-10k/48318/35):
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> Not everyone wants to drive an outdated and/or used car. Thus buying a new car with fuel economy in mind actually isn’t that bad of an idea.

That’s precisely the point.

You not “wanting” to be in a used car is going to cost you more.

Desires typically do.

Financially it’s a much worse idea to go with your “wants” instead of satisfying the needs.

Otherwise we would all be driving new cars. :facepalm

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### Author: ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/91 "2012-03-14T20:42:00Z")

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> [@BMW Meet June 14th - Gauging interest.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-meet-june-14th-gauging-interest/48662/2):
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> At this point Id rather just have one vehicle to drive all the time and not worry about additional insurance, repairs, fuel, etc and a place to park it.
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> Gas costs me $90 or so a week but I budget for that. I definitely dont give a fuck about putting miles on it either, Ive already put on 55k in 3 years.

Where the fuck do you drive!!! I spend 90 a week for my work commute…which is 700 miles a week…

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/92 "2012-03-14T20:48:19Z")

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700 miles a week? holy fuckkk travis, that is brutal

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### Author: ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/93 "2012-03-14T20:54:06Z")

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damn I drive around half that and it sucks haha

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/94 "2012-03-14T20:56:24Z")

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My manager at work does about 250 a day 5 days a week. Commutes to outer Fishkill.

Bought a car mid summer last year and he’s over 30K already.

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### Author: ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/95 "2012-03-14T21:22:53Z")

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I spend over 100 a week in fuel and I work 5 miles from home lol.

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### Author: ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/96 "2012-03-14T23:33:33Z")

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> [@Economic Stimulus Package Check...??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/economic-stimulus-package-check/48588/27):
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> 700 miles a week? holy fuckkk travis, that is brutal

And that’s just strictly to work and back. It was 560, but we’re back on 5 day work weeks for awhile. Then we can add 80 miles a week for my dads dialysis appointment…I’m sure I go over 800 a week.

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/97 "2012-03-15T04:06:52Z")

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> [@new personal best ET](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-personal-best-et/48663/2):
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> Where the fuck do you drive!!! I spend 90 a week for my work commute…which is 700 miles a week…

Mainly to work and back, about 50 miles a day. I put on 300-350 miles a week most weeks. My truck gets 14-15 mpg (on winter blend) and has a 27 gallon tank.

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### Author: ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/98 "2012-03-15T05:19:30Z")

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Me and the Fiance have both been getting about 20mpg even. I have a 150k 3.1 V6 Grand Am that gets driven about 60 - 70% city and she has an Ford Ranger 2.5L auto 2WD that gets driven closer to 50% city and Highway.  
Sadly I also get 17-18mpg with my LS1 Trans Am on E85 with roughly the same 50% split city and highway. I got over 20mpg all highway with 4.10 gears.  
The grand am tho did get 29mpg on a trip to Pennsylvania at 75-80mph

Weekly we both average about 250 miles and we both fill up at 200 - 280miles which comes out to every 6-8 days.

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### Author: ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/99 "2012-03-15T10:15:54Z")

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Forget arguing with Vlad, it’s pointless.

Again, there’s a line.

If I’m spending 90% of my time in my DD, I choose to not drive a rusty beater. (And no I’m not talking about TT’s car. I’ve had my share of Civics/Tegs).

If it came down to it, I’d sell both and just have 1 nice car that I enjoy driving.

But people who go out and buy brand new cars for “MPG” are full of shit.

My 05 TSX is arguably the best DD I’ve owned. (I liked my IS300 as well)  
Good on gas (30mpg)  
Has most features any higher end luxury would (HID/Nav/Sat radio, heated seats)  
6 speed (fun to drive)  
handles well  
cheap parts  
wasn’t super expensive  
reliable  
comfortable  
4 doors (practical)  
good in snow

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### Author: ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2012, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/100 "2012-03-15T10:33:25Z")

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My dd is the least practical vehicle i have ever owned.

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