# More auto food for thought

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/121 "2012-03-15T19:08:31Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000"](#):
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> So your wrong. Things that you want don’t always cost more than things that you need.

You don’t need a surgery. You want a surgery.

Have fun playing semantics trying to prove me wrong on a point where you know you are wrong.

Nicer things cost more.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/122 "2012-03-15T19:14:01Z")

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I dont think anybody wants to get their appendix removed. Its usually not an elective procedure like titty implants or a penile extension.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/123 "2012-03-15T20:17:14Z")

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> [@The 3 day - E30 M50B25NV Swap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-3-day-e30-m50b25nv-swap/48633/39):
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> You don’t need a surgery. You want a surgery.
> 
> Have fun playing semantics trying to prove me wrong on a point where you know you are wrong.
> 
> Nicer things cost more.

Nice is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t think nice things always cost more. You are so obtuse Vladimir.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/124 "2012-03-15T20:25:37Z")

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> [@new personal best ET](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-personal-best-et/48663/11):
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> Nice is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t think nice things always cost more. You are so obtuse Vladimir.

And you have fun with that tangent.

In the meantime in the auto world it’s pretty clear when a vehicle is nicer than another.

PJB and Bakerian can tell you that pretty quickly as they have expressed their opinions in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/125 "2012-03-15T20:27:48Z")

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Is my 2000 integra nicer than this ferrari f50?

![http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/ferrari-f50-crashed-by-fbi-now-for-sale_1.jpg](http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/ferrari-f50-crashed-by-fbi-now-for-sale_1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/126 "2012-03-15T23:53:20Z")

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> [@Ass jockeys at IMAX transit](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ass-jockeys-at-imax-transit/48623/46):
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> yeah, and I think most people would agree with wanting to have the nicest vehicle we can afford to drive everyday and not some old shitbox. I drive a decent amount of miles each year and would much rather drive something that looks and runs good and is comfortable to drive.
> 
> After driving a few old beaters and then driving a few nicer, newer vehicles I wouldnt want to go back.
> 
> Maybe youve never had a nice vehicle and cant relate to that.

I hate to break your balls and be a harsh reality check, but you can’t afford your current F150.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/127 "2012-03-16T04:04:25Z")

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> [@WTB: third gen camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-third-gen-camaro/48394/8):
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> I hate to break your balls and be a harsh reality check, but you can’t afford your current F150.

How is that?

Ive never missed a payment on it and pay a little extra on the loan every month. Id say I can afford it just fine.

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**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/128 "2012-03-16T05:20:52Z")

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Oh boy… Vlad has started argueing semantics. Might as well shut move this thread to “Epic”, it’s already well on its way.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/129 "2012-03-16T08:00:24Z")

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> [@went out for a chocolate cow](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-a-chocolate-cow/48661/38):
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> Is my 2000 integra nicer than this ferrari f50?
> 
> ![http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/ferrari-f50-crashed-by-fbi-now-for-sale_1.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/9/293b1a569ca311ad5a002ddab0f834c158cb05df.jpeg)

No offense but your entire car isnt even on the playing field with just that hood.

There is no real answer to any of this topic where the treads headed.

I will tell you this though… It takes alot more car to make me happy behind the wheel. I have driven some cars people consider “way nicer than my daily” and are supposed to be sporty… but fall very short IMO. With that being said, if I wanted a fun car to drive that I impressed myself behind the wheel more than disappointing myself behind the wheel… you are going to be paying alot. Like someone said, its in the eye of the beholder.

But on the flip side, I have had way more fun driving or riding in some totally odd ball cars people would consider crappy.

I still say the perfect car is a 20+mpg 12 sec 1/4 that can take a turn on a back road and not make you deaf or hurt your back at the end of a trip. And that is going to cost a good chunk of coin.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/130 "2012-03-16T08:28:43Z")

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> [@FS: Adidas and Adio Sneakers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-adidas-and-adio-sneakers/48646/3):
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> I still say the perfect car is a 20+mpg 12 sec 1/4 that can take a turn on a back road and not make you deaf or hurt your back at the end of a trip. And that is going to cost a good chunk of coin.

I agree. I think the current C63/S4/M3 sedan lineup fits that bill nicely.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/131 "2012-03-16T08:32:19Z")

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fits the bill to the tune of $61K for the cheapest of the group. yeah Pay to play.

Even used your talking $35K for one thats not raped to shit.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/132 "2012-03-16T08:41:56Z")

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pimpin aint easy :skid

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/133 "2012-03-16T08:48:35Z")

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As far as DDs go, I’d go with a 5-series over an M3. Just more overall comfort for everyone in the vehicle, whether front or back seat. The E90 3-series has small back seats IMO.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/134 "2012-03-16T08:54:45Z")

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550i

decent mileage & year can be found for mid 20’s.

I would rock one in a heartbeat

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/135 "2012-03-16T08:59:44Z")

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> [@Fuzzy this ones for you!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuzzy-this-ones-for-you/48679/4):
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> 550i
> 
> decent mileage & year can be found for mid 20’s.
> 
> I would rock one in a heartbeat

Not even, I’d prefer a CPO’d 535.

One of my buddies just went to auction and picked up an E60 528xi for stupidly cheap. I’m not gonna post the price as I know he intends on selling it shortly, but the thing is literally loaded with every available option except for HUD and adaptive cruise control. With all these options, they turned it into a $70k BASE model 5 series. Clearly someone who cared only about comfort rather than performance, but the car is pretty damn minty.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/136 "2012-03-16T09:06:30Z")

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I hear ya. I just dont like that its got the run of the mill 3.0l

I NEED HPZ

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**Author:** ![adamea1635](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@adamea1635](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/adamea1635)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/137 "2012-03-16T09:38:07Z")

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> [@WNY SCCA Solo Event 2 - ECCN 5/18/08](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-scca-solo-event-2-eccn-5-18-08/48339/59):
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> I hear ya. I just dont like that its got the run of the mill 3.0l
> 
> I NEED HPZ

N52 is the most reliable of all the engines though. No high pressure fuel problems like the turbz…

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/138 "2012-03-16T10:28:41Z")

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Y U GUYS FORGET CADILLAC?

for a baller car with moderate gas milage and some serious balls, Caddy all the way.

/thread

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/139 "2012-03-16T10:38:29Z")

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> [@Motor cycle road test, in an hour ???????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-cycle-road-test-in-an-hour/48686/3):
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> Y U GUYS FORGET CADILLAC?
> 
> for a baller car with moderate gas milage and some serious balls, Caddy all the way.
> 
> /thread

Typical :skid response I have learned to expect from :skid.

Simply put, no. I’d take an excellent handling, although slightly underpowerd 528 or 535 over just about any Caddy. And I’d most certainly take an M5 over a CTS-V.

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**Author:** ![HANSTECH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hanstech/32/6445_2.png) [@HANSTECH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HANSTECH)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/140 "2012-03-16T10:42:26Z")

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Cars suck/ end thread.

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