# More auto food for thought

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/141 "2012-03-16T11:03:34Z")

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> [@Opie and Anthony](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anthony/25815/416):
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> Typical :skid response I have learned to expect from :skid.
> 
> Simply put, no. I’d take an excellent handling, although slightly underpowerd 528 or 535 over just about any Caddy. And I’d most certainly take an M5 over a CTS-V.

I think i just lost the little respect i still had left for you.

i’ll point out a couple paragraphs for you:

[Cadillac](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/cadillac/)’s new CTS-V currently holds the record (with a time of 7:59.32) as the fastest production sedan on stock tires around the Nurburgring Nordschleife.

\*\*my comment: the BMW doesnt hold the track record IN IT’S OWN COUNTRY.

Yet where it really matters, as a performance sedan, the CTS-V soundly spanks the [M5](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/bmw/m5/). It’s quicker in a straight line, handles better, steers better, even rides better (credit those amazing, multitalented magnetorheological shocks).

Read more: [http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112\_0907\_bmw\_m5\_cadillac\_ctsv\_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv](http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0907_bmw_m5_cadillac_ctsv_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv)

Go ahead Cossey, read the article.

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**Author:** ![HANSTECH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hanstech/32/6445_2.png) [@HANSTECH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HANSTECH)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/142 "2012-03-16T11:24:26Z")

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you stepped onto the wrong side of the track young fella.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/143 "2012-03-16T11:25:58Z")

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Cossey’s a eurowhore. the 911, the X5, i think there’s something else, but i dont remember what it was.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/144 "2012-03-16T11:31:07Z")

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> [@FS: Adidas and Adio Sneakers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-adidas-and-adio-sneakers/48646/3):
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> No offense but your entire car isnt even on the playing field with just that hood.
> 
> There is no real answer to any of this topic where the treads headed.
> 
> I will tell you this though… It takes alot more car to make me happy behind the wheel. I have driven some cars people consider “way nicer than my daily” and are supposed to be sporty… but fall very short IMO. With that being said, if I wanted a fun car to drive that I impressed myself behind the wheel more than disappointing myself behind the wheel… you are going to be paying alot. Like someone said, its in the eye of the beholder.
> 
> But on the flip side, I have had way more fun driving or riding in some totally odd ball cars people would consider crappy.
> 
> I still say the perfect car is a 20+mpg 12 sec 1/4 that can take a turn on a back road and not make you deaf or hurt your back at the end of a trip. And that is going to cost a good chunk of coin.

My point exactly.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/145 "2012-03-16T11:52:35Z")

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> [@Motor cycle road test, in an hour ???????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-cycle-road-test-in-an-hour/48686/3):
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> Y U GUYS FORGET CADILLAC?
> 
> for a baller car with moderate gas milage and some serious balls, Caddy all the way.
> 
> /thread

:skid

> [@Motor cycle road test, in an hour ???????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-cycle-road-test-in-an-hour/48686/6):
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> I think i just lost the little respect i still had left for you.
> 
> i’ll point out a couple paragraphs for you:
> 
> [Cadillac](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/cadillac/)’s new CTS-V currently holds the record (with a time of 7:59.32) as the fastest production sedan on stock tires around the Nurburgring Nordschleife.
> 
> \*\*my comment: the BMW doesnt hold the track record IN IT’S OWN COUNTRY.
> 
> Yet where it really matters, as a performance sedan, the CTS-V soundly spanks the [M5](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/bmw/m5/). It’s quicker in a straight line, handles better, steers better, even rides better (credit those amazing, multitalented magnetorheological shocks).
> 
> Read more: [http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112\_0907\_bmw\_m5\_cadillac\_ctsv\_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv](http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0907_bmw_m5_cadillac_ctsv_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv)
> 
> Go ahead Cossey, read the article.

:skid:skid

> [@Moving tomorrow... DirecTV or TW?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/72):
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> Cossey’s a eurowhore. the 911, the X5, i think there’s something else, but i dont remember what it was.

:skid:skid:skid

Dude, your 16. Have you ever touched, seen under/inside, worked on, driven, riden in, or dealt with ANY of the cars you mentioned (CTS-V, 911, X5, 5…) or just e-bench race your way into the conversation?

All those cars are completely different animals, in completely different ways. And he has a 997, not 911.

No offense to Cavy who just picked up the CTS-V… but its a GM. Naturally it has a higher hurdle to jump over, performance, REPEATABILITY, and RELIABILITY ways. Price point proves it, IMO. You buy a BMW because all the little things GM skimped on BMW didnt. Fine and dandy if the stamped control arm caddy, and stamped & spot welded subframed GM cars can keep up or even pass the forged and cast aluminum bits of metal the BMW’s used instead. Enjoy the squeaky bushings in the winter time, the clunks in the suspension after 60K, lack of sound deadening here and there… There is a reason there are a shit ton of aftermarket “better” parts for those platforms, than the BMW cars… they are fixing what the factory failed to do.

Anything can preform in on a track or in a magazine to make a point. When you start dealing with and living with the different ones… the little points jump out.

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**Author:** ![adamea1635](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@adamea1635](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/adamea1635)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/146 "2012-03-16T12:09:40Z")

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So many twists and turns in this thread.

When is the full circle coming where MPG of both the CTS-V and M5 are brought up.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/147 "2012-03-16T12:18:49Z")

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I would take Cosseys 996 911 for a daily. Gets decent MPGs.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/148 "2012-03-16T12:22:30Z")

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#2; who gives a fuck about the 'Ring? My truck never lapped the Nurburgring but I bought it anyway. It’s just American manufacturers ability to get their dick wet in Germany and say they can do something better than German manufacturers. It does nothing for my new vehicle purchases. Is BMW going to try breaking records at Daytona?

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/149 "2012-03-16T12:48:59Z")

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THE RING MATTERS KBB

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/150 "2012-03-16T12:54:12Z")

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> [@SBC 383 Stroker in a boat, thoughts?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sbc-383-stroker-in-a-boat-thoughts/48682/3):
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> THE RING MATTERS KBB

:rofl

I care about 'ring times when purchasing a new vehicle because I drive like I’m on the Nurburgring on my way to work everyday.

The M5 JUST beat Dick Trickles lap time around Daytona. What do you say to that :skid

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/151 "2012-03-16T13:12:46Z")

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> [@Cossey's sig](#):
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> 2002 Porsche 911 TT 0whp and 0tq. 2002 BMW M3 The track whore. 2011 BMW X5 35d The daily.

> [@skidplate's sig](#):
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> over polished, under performing 2wd auto ranger.

:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/152 "2012-03-16T13:14:41Z")

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I wassss going to buy a 1995 ford windstar… but they didn’t test it on the ring.

![http://memegenerator.net/instance/16423416](http://memegenerator.net/instance/16423416)

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/153 "2012-03-16T13:15:13Z")

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![http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16423416.jpg](http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16423416.jpg)

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/154 "2012-03-16T13:27:43Z")

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> [@FS: JVC CD player](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-jvc-cd-player/47394/6):
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> How is that?
> 
> Ive never missed a payment on it and pay a little extra on the loan every month. Id say I can afford it just fine.

It’d be repo’ed if your parents kicked you out.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/155 "2012-03-16T16:00:59Z")

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who said anyone should base their purchases on 'Ring times? i sure didnt. im only stating that an american car set a record, on a german track, that a german car couldnt beat.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/156 "2012-03-16T16:18:12Z")

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Nurburgring times mean jack shit to someone buying the car, at least to me anyway.

Nissan was accused of using a ringer when they lapped the Nurburgring in the GTR. Ferrari, the same.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/157 "2012-03-16T16:19:02Z")

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im just saying, it’s pretty impressive.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/158 "2012-03-16T16:26:14Z")

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How do you know that CTS-V was a lot car and not a 700RWHP ringer?

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/159 "2012-03-16T16:30:32Z")

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because it was on stock tires for fuck’s sake.

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**Author:** ![91teg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91teg/32/6304_2.png) [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/160 "2012-03-16T16:36:44Z")

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This kid is ridiculous :skid

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