# More auto food for thought

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/161 "2012-03-16T16:37:46Z")

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You can have 900+HP on stock tires. My point being, it may appear stock but who is to say that particular car wasn’t given a special tune and a smaller pulley just to set that record?

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/162 "2012-03-16T16:38:17Z")

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> [@SOLD: 1991 Mazda MX-5 Miata](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-1991-mazda-mx-5-miata/48627/4):
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> This kid is ridiculous :skid

think maybe?

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**Author:** ![91teg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91teg/32/6304_2.png) [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/163 "2012-03-16T16:39:00Z")

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:skid

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/164 "2012-03-16T19:53:24Z")

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:skid :skid :skid

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/165 "2012-03-17T07:59:46Z")

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> [@Motor cycle road test, in an hour ???????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-cycle-road-test-in-an-hour/48686/6):
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> I think i just lost the little respect i still had left for you.
> 
> i’ll point out a couple paragraphs for you:
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> [Cadillac](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/cadillac/)’s new CTS-V currently holds the record (with a time of 7:59.32) as the fastest production sedan on stock tires around the Nurburgring Nordschleife.
> 
> \*\*my comment: the BMW doesnt hold the track record IN IT’S OWN COUNTRY.
> 
> Yet where it really matters, as a performance sedan, the CTS-V soundly spanks the [M5](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/bmw/m5/). It’s quicker in a straight line, handles better, steers better, even rides better (credit those amazing, multitalented magnetorheological shocks).
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> Read more: [http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112\_0907\_bmw\_m5\_cadillac\_ctsv\_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv](http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0907_bmw_m5_cadillac_ctsv_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv)
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> Go ahead Cossey, read the article.

This will be fun. Please, continue with Motor Trend as your source and using THEIR opinions as YOUR argument.

Here’s some legitimate facts.

2011 BMW M5 lap time - 7:55.00… Same as a Ferrari F430, faster than a stock 996 911 Turbo

2009 Cadillac CTS-V - 7:59.32

SOURCE: [Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times - FastestLaps.com](http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html)

Doesn’t hold the record in it’s own country? Who the fuck cares, really?  
And if BMW didn’t hold the record, Porsche would with the Panamara Turbo with a 7:56.00 lap time.

And also, like I couldn’t care less if you lost respect for me, as if I had any respect for you in the first place.

EDIT: Also, you’re comparing it to the E60 M5, which came out in 2005.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/166 "2012-03-17T08:03:00Z")

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> [@SBC 383 Stroker in a boat, thoughts?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sbc-383-stroker-in-a-boat-thoughts/48682/7):
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> :skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid:skid

That made me :crackup a little bit.

> [@FS: American Racing Rims 5 x 5.5, Fits Ford 4x4](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-american-racing-rims-5-x-5-5-fits-ford-4x4/48674/3):
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> who said anyone should base their purchases on 'Ring times? i sure didnt. im only stating that an american car set a record, on a german track, that a german car couldnt beat.

Cadillac did set the record… in 2009. Only to have it beaten twice since then. Might wanna check things that are current rather than using issues of Motor Trend from when you were in middle school for your source.

:skid

You literally know nothing about lap times, racing, or anything of that sort. Stick to polishing your Ranger’s lug nuts and reading Motor Trend.

> [@Moving tomorrow... DirecTV or TW?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/72):
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> Cossey’s a eurowhore. the 911, the X5, i think there’s something else, but i dont remember what it was.

Well until another country makes a car that _I_ feel is better, I don’t think I’ll be straying away from the German vehicles. Again, I said “I feel is better” meaning my own personal opinion, not some of Motor Trend’s writers’.

EDIT: HEY GUYS, found this article that said the M3 was the best handling car in America!!! [http://www.m3forum.com/articles/Car\_and\_Driver\_Sept\_1997.pdf](http://www.m3forum.com/articles/Car_and_Driver_Sept_1997.pdf)

It beat out the Ferrari F355, Corvette, Supra, NSX, 911 Carrera, and even a Honda Prelude Type S! HOT OFF THE PRESS!

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**Author:** ![JVG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jvg/32/6348_2.png) [@JVG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JVG)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/167 "2012-03-17T08:12:22Z")

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:skid

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/168 "2012-03-17T08:19:25Z")

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My car is also faster than an m5.

Current ad…

 ![http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3198/2681/32993840002_large.jpg](http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3198/2681/32993840002_large.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/169 "2012-03-17T11:00:04Z")

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> [@FS: 95-99 Maxima parts (parts car)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-95-99-maxima-parts-parts-car/48611/2):
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> This will be fun. Please, continue with Motor Trend as your source and using THEIR opinions as YOUR argument.
> 
> Here’s some legitimate facts.
> 
> 2011 BMW M5 lap time - 7:55.00… Same as a Ferrari F430, faster than a stock 996 911 Turbo
> 
> 2009 Cadillac CTS-V - 7:59.32
> 
> SOURCE: [http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html](http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html)
> 
> Doesn’t hold the record in it’s own country? Who the fuck cares, really?  
> And if BMW didn’t hold the record, Porsche would with the Panamara Turbo with a 7:56.00 lap time.
> 
> And also, like I couldn’t care less if you lost respect for me, as if I had any respect for you in the first place.
> 
> EDIT: Also, you’re comparing it to the E60 M5, which came out in 2005.

since i know i cant win an argument on shift, I’m not going to bother continuing to argue.

all i WAS saying, is that a 2009 CTS-V is superior to a 2009 M5.

and now, i dont give a fuck.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/170 "2012-03-17T11:32:06Z")

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> [@Craigslist of the day( i hard remember many list)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-of-the-day-i-hard-remember-many-list/48699/6):
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> since i know i cant win an argument on shift, I’m not going to bother continuing to argue.
> 
> all i WAS saying, is that a 2009 CTS-V is superior to a 2009 M5.
> 
> and now, i dont give a fuck.

How about comparing an 06 CTS-V to the 06 M5, since the E60 M5 didn’t change power/“handling” wise for its tenure. The 09 CTS-V came out with more power, different suspension and what not to compete against the E60 M5. Then BMW reigned supreme once the new M5 (F10) came out.

If you wanna argue at least be fair about it. That will earn you mate a smidgen of respect compared to what you have now.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/171 "2012-03-17T11:39:36Z")

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I dunno, that Dodge Spirit R/T can lay some rubber down. Mid 90’s Caddys don’t stand a chance.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/172 "2012-03-17T12:21:02Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/48694/8):
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> How about comparing an 06 CTS-V to the 06 M5, since the E60 M5 didn’t change power/“handling” wise for its tenure. The 09 CTS-V came out with more power, different suspension and what not to compete against the E60 M5. Then BMW reigned supreme once the new M5 (F10) came out.
> 
> If you wanna argue at least be fair about it. That will earn you mate a smidgen of respect compared to what you have now.

i was trying to be completely fair about it, took the same year for both cars. but i didnt find a comparison between both cars from '06. honestly i wasnt looking for one though.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/173 "2012-03-17T12:21:45Z")

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> [@civic over heating?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-over-heating/48677/10):
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> I dunno, that Dodge Spirit R/T can lay some rubber down. Mid 90’s Caddys don’t stand a chance.

80’s caddys sucked, 90’s caddys sucked, and early 2000’s caddys sucked.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/174 "2012-03-17T12:25:17Z")

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> [@new personal best ET](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-personal-best-et/48663/18):
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> 80’s caddys sucked, 90’s caddys sucked, and early 2000’s caddys sucked.

Why do you say that?

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/175 "2012-03-17T12:30:04Z")

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> [@SOLD: Frontmount Intercooler](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-frontmount-intercooler/48659/11):
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> Why do you say that?

80’s were hideous  
90’s were pathetic (ex. cimmaron or whatever the hell it’s called)  
early 2000’s? Catera. that is all.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/176 "2012-03-17T12:36:24Z")

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> [@MOVING SALE (TV, couches, lay-z-boy, surround sound, shelves, desks, etc etc)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-sale-tv-couches-lay-z-boy-surround-sound-shelves-desks-etc-etc/48061/24):
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> 80’s were hideous  
> 90’s were pathetic (ex. cimmaron or whatever the hell it’s called)  
> early 2000’s? Catera. that is all.

I thought you were the Cadillac Master. I’d still rock a mid 90’s DeVille.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/177 "2012-03-17T13:33:59Z")

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squarebody Fleetwood on 13" Daytons

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/178 "2012-03-17T13:48:56Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/48694/11):
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> squarebody Fleetwood on 13" Daytons

As long as dem spokes is gold and they’re 100 wires.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/179 "2012-03-17T14:14:14Z")

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![http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4431/3341/23576670002_large.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4431/3341/23576670002_large.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/180 "2012-03-17T14:27:29Z")

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yuck. wheels are WAY too small for the car.

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