# More auto food for thought

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981 "2012-03-11T16:59:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-auto-food-for-thought/262981/165 "2012-03-17T07:59:46Z")

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> [@Motor cycle road test, in an hour ???????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-cycle-road-test-in-an-hour/48686/6):
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> I think i just lost the little respect i still had left for you.
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> i’ll point out a couple paragraphs for you:
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> [Cadillac](http://www.motortrend.com/new_cars/01/cadillac/)’s new CTS-V currently holds the record (with a time of 7:59.32) as the fastest production sedan on stock tires around the Nurburgring Nordschleife.
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> \*\*my comment: the BMW doesnt hold the track record IN IT’S OWN COUNTRY.
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> Yet where it really matters, as a performance sedan, the CTS-V soundly spanks the [M5](http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/bmw/m5/). It’s quicker in a straight line, handles better, steers better, even rides better (credit those amazing, multitalented magnetorheological shocks).
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> Read more: [http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112\_0907\_bmw\_m5\_cadillac\_ctsv\_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv](http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0907_bmw_m5_cadillac_ctsv_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1pIuHa5jv)
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> Go ahead Cossey, read the article.

This will be fun. Please, continue with Motor Trend as your source and using THEIR opinions as YOUR argument.

Here’s some legitimate facts.

2011 BMW M5 lap time - 7:55.00… Same as a Ferrari F430, faster than a stock 996 911 Turbo

2009 Cadillac CTS-V - 7:59.32

SOURCE: [Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times - FastestLaps.com](http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html)

Doesn’t hold the record in it’s own country? Who the fuck cares, really?  
And if BMW didn’t hold the record, Porsche would with the Panamara Turbo with a 7:56.00 lap time.

And also, like I couldn’t care less if you lost respect for me, as if I had any respect for you in the first place.

EDIT: Also, you’re comparing it to the E60 M5, which came out in 2005.

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