# More Bad News, PS3 Fans... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 9, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359 "2005-11-09T07:21:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/1 "2005-11-09T07:21:08Z")
[http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568](http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568) "**A PATENT may allow Sony to ensure that no game would be playable from any console other than the one in which it was first read. Joystiq is reporting that this patent is the source of the many rumours that will mean as much to gamers as DRM is for music fans.** **The technology would allow an authentication code to be read and then rendered unreadable, making the software unplayable on any machine but the one which first read it.**" ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/2 "2005-11-09T07:26:28Z")
^^companies are gonna force kids to quit console gaming all together. Seriously that is horrible and if that comes true then ps3 is just doomed. I know i sure as fuck wouldnt spend 50 bucks on a game that would be locked to one system ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/3 "2005-11-09T07:28:25Z")
That will **doom** the PS3, and consequently Sony’s bottomline. They have put so much on the shoulders of this project that I cannot believe they would seriously try this. Now, in this market and social time? jeeeebus. IB4BuickGN ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/4 "2005-11-09T07:28:59Z")
ehhh… I doubt it will be around all that long honestly. As soon as the gurus get ahold of it. I mean, the hard drive for instance, was never supposed to be able to be used for storing games and playing them from it, but that took people a few weeks to get that figured out lol. plus that seems like a very stupid thing to do, as that will kill the used game market for sony consoles. I mean, whats the point of getting it if you wont be able to trade/borrow games with friends, rent them, ect when you can do all of that on the new xbox? ehh… like I said though, I’m sure it wont take long to get around it. Probably a swap disc would be the way to go (so it reads the TOC from a dummy disc and autherizes it) ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/5 "2005-11-09T07:29:49Z")
**“While the PS3 hasn’t been expressly mentioned in the patent in English or Japanese it would be the obvious place to employ this new technology, regardless of how little gamers will appreciate it. Between this and the DRM scandal, Sony could be looking at a serious drop in interest in the PS3. You can be sure you’ll see more on this as it develops. As gamers, we can only hope that modern technology won’t undermine the tried and tested barter system”** I think Microsoft may have started this rumor… ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/6 "2005-11-09T07:30:47Z")
This sounds like bullshit to me. What happens to game rentals? People can’t borrow games from friends? Thats a pretty stupid concept and there really is no reason for it. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/7 "2005-11-09T07:31:50Z")
Matt why do you have to start shit? You PS3 hater 😛 Its not gonna happen guys… you have my word. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/8 "2005-11-09T07:34:26Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > Its not gonna happen guys… you have my word. what does that mean to me? it’s not like You have any Karma to support You… BTW - it could very well happen, but in a lesser form then “self-detruct” ident-codes. What about CD Keys a la’ PC games… ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/9 "2005-11-09T07:36:19Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > Matt why do you have to start shit? You PS3 hater 😛 > > Its not gonna happen guys… you have my word. Oh shit, Jack says it’s so, then it must be so!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/10 "2005-11-09T07:36:59Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > what does that mean to me? it’s not like You have any Karma to support You… > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Oh shit, Jack says it’s so, then it must be so!! 😉 :shoot: :mad: :lol: I just don’t want it to get blown out of porporporportion… cause people won’t read the link, look as some posts… and then go into a rant about Microsoft \> Sony CD keys are only good for online multiplayer… which is something the PS3 won’t have to worry about 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/11 "2005-11-09T07:38:53Z")
The only reason I can see it not happening is because of the rental factor. That would KILL interest right there. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/12 "2005-11-09T07:40:31Z")
no way. not happening. unless sony actually likes losing market share and profits. :edit to above: and if I want to take gran turismo 83 over to my boy’s house, I have to bring the entire system? selling used games? break my ps3 and have to buy a new game to go with? hell no. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/13 "2005-11-09T07:43:00Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > CD keys are only good for online multiplayer… Don’t I know it. I only got to play FEAR one time against others. Now my key comes up as invalid. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/14 "2005-11-09T07:47:32Z")
you can steal keys. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/15 "2005-11-09T07:54:49Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > you can steal keys. Refer to the follow: > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > [http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568](http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568) > > " **A PATENT may allow Sony to ensure that no game would be playable from any console other than the one in which it was first read.** > **Joystiq is reporting that this patent is the source of the many rumours that will mean as much to gamers as DRM is for music fans.** > > **The technology would allow an authentication code to be read and then rendered unreadable, making the software unplayable on any machine but the one which first read it.**" ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/16 "2005-11-09T08:00:55Z")
The one thing I don’t get is how they plan to mark the DVD’s after they have been manufactured. Unless they are using some kind of NVRAM type of setup, I don’t see how it can happen. If they do come out with some proprietary setup, gamers have another hurdle to leap over to copy games. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/17 "2005-11-09T08:09:51Z")
we are talking about CD keys Knick… for existing PC games. I read the article, and I’m not worried at all. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/18 "2005-11-09T08:19:39Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > we are talking about CD keys Knick… for existing PC games. > I read the article, and I’m not worried at all. It directly applies JT… The more people hack keygens for ANY product, the more nervous game / code / software companies get about their bottom-line. Why would a company willfully put out a product that can easily be duplicated and resold by someone other then them (netting them a two-fold loss)… when they could possibly introduce something that could very well stop that? Such as CD keys, or self-destructing PS3 discs? The real question is… is the company BRAVE ENOUGH to risk losing their market on it? You know god damned well that Sony, MS, and the rest of them would love to introduce some “encryption” anti-hack system. But it’s like being the first guy to bang a slutty-dirty broad; he’s taking the risk (read: might get teh clap), gonna be an outkast, and will catch some smack talk from friends & women… but only until everyone else realizes they can get a nut off too. ---
**Author:** ![tour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@tour](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tour)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/19 "2005-11-09T08:36:34Z")
Didn’t this arlready happen with sony’s music cd’s, I remember hearing soemthing about it ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359/20 "2005-11-09T08:44:42Z")
> [@tour](#): > > Didn’t this arlready happen with sony’s music cd’s, I remember hearing soemthing about it Exactly… But, yea, it did. Black sharpie defeated that. After that became super public, I think they stopped using that method of production. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-bad-news-ps3-fans/4359.md?page=2)