# More workout talk (Split from purchase thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 25, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-workout-talk-split-from-purchase-thread/259624 "2011-07-25T17:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 223
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-workout-talk-split-from-purchase-thread/259624/223 "2011-07-28T15:13:36Z")
> [@Eatonualive281"](#): > > yes this is true…and guys, lets not forget about THE most important factor here. YOU MUST TRAIN HARD! if you think you are training hard you need to go at it harder. you need focus. your mind controls your body… envision yourself growing and getting stronger. no joke. Arnold believed in and preached this. I’m sure the pile of anabolics that Arnold was on didn’t have much to do with his physique:dunno > [@Aids Vaccine?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aids-vaccine/44246/3): > > BOOST4LOVE > > what do you do for cardio? > > when do you do it? > > I typically do it after i lift. wonderin if i should take the shake after i lift and before cardio, wait till after cardio, or find a different time to do cardio Cardio AFTER you train, always, then food after that cardio session > [@Aids Vaccine?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aids-vaccine/44246/9): > > cant argue that, 100% of everyone overtrains, we are all guilty of it lol Not me. After years, I finally figured it out. Here is my workout A-Push-Tuesday Bench Close grip bench Shoulder press Squat B-Pull-Thursday Pulldown T-bar row curls deadlift Sat-A Tues-B Thurs-A etc… 2 hours 25 min in the gym a WEEK, CRAZY gains vs the 6 hours or so I used to do. You fuckers are going to make me get serious again, not sure to say thanks, or fuck you, lol --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-workout-talk-split-from-purchase-thread/259624)._