# Most Over/ Under rated Car **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 11, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213 "2010-02-11T15:42:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/21 "2010-02-12T07:03:36Z")
> [@newman](#): > > S2Ks are only slightly cooler than a civic. > > NSX is cool, but I’d probably feel like a poser driving one, because they’re so slow. +1 on the nsx. I would feel like an exotic car wannabe or something. I’d rather have a Lotus than an NSX. I bet an Elise is way more fun. ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/22 "2010-02-12T07:09:46Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > +1 > > i hate to toss out plugs for a car that I own, but mazdaspeed3s fly under the radar big time. They can hold their own. Yeah agreed, IMO stock for stock MS3 is the car to beat. Plus they’re so cheap. If they were AWD they’d be right up their with STi’s and Evo’s. > [@mafdark](#): > > miata: underrated > > Veyron overrated. > Here is why: Specifically built to be faster/better than the Mclaren F1, 240 mph top speed, Le Mans winning, super light, super reliable street/race car. The Veyron only beats it in top speed. It lugs nearly around twice the weight of the F1, it’s release delayed because the brakes didn’t work, and it simply can’t turn a corner. All that even though it came out 13 years after the F1. > > It seems the veyron’s sole purpose was to be a prop on MTV cribs to be showed off as an overpriced trophy by someone who knows next to nothing about cars. That’s not the sole reason the Veyron was produced… The Veyron is basically a super fancy high-end super car. Sure you can buy a Koenigsegg CCXR or an Enzo and beat a Veyron on the track… but the Veyron’s luxury \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> any other super car by far. It just happens to go super fast, so it can have some merit as a legitimate supercar. Sort of like how a Rolls Royce wouldn’t be the same if it were slow. I’d like to nominate the Lotus Elise series 1 for most overrated car. It doesn’t handle that well, it runs like mid 14s, and it gives false impressions to people who don’t know it’s not a super car. The series 2 Elise is a ton better but still slightly overrated IMO, but at least they’re cheap. ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/23 "2010-02-12T08:02:37Z")
> [@mafdark](#): > > miata: underrated > > Veyron overrated. > Here is why: Specifically built to be faster/better than the Mclaren F1, 240 mph top speed, Le Mans winning, super light, super reliable street/race car. The Veyron only beats it in top speed. It lugs nearly around twice the weight of the F1, it’s release delayed because the brakes didn’t work, and it simply can’t turn a corner. All that even though it came out 13 years after the F1. > > It seems the veyron’s sole purpose was to be a prop on MTV cribs to be showed off as an overpriced trophy by someone who knows next to nothing about cars. i fucking love miatas! ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/24 "2010-02-12T08:06:11Z")
Under rated: Mini “S” Reason: people think it is too small and femine, but it was a lot of fun to drive Overrated: Corvette Zr1 Reason: great performance for your dollar, but any car that you can indent the rear panel with your pinky and has a cobalt steering wheel should not cost over $100k ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/25 "2010-02-12T08:15:58Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Underrated- Pontiac G8. GM puts out a great sport sedan, and it gets the ax after a little over the year because of branding issues. No matter how good it is, people still see it and associate it with 90’s grand ams because of the badge on the front, despite the fact that other than the GTO it really has nothing in common with any pontiac ever made. 100% agreed, Once I drive my caddy into the ground(which doesn’t take long for northstars, haha) I’ll be picking up one of these, put headers, exhaust, intake and tune asap and have a nice 12 second DD :loopie: ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/26 "2010-02-12T08:23:00Z")
> [@BREETIME](#): > > i fucking love miatas! I still want one. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/27 "2010-02-12T08:31:25Z")
Underrated: The 88 Fiero GT. I mean, come on. In 1988 GM of all people had a mid-engined RWD car that would run the slalom faster than a 911 Carrera or BMW M3. And it woul get close to 30mpg on the highway. It returned a profit every year it was sold, but the rumor goes that team Corvette was so scared of the 1990 prototype that the Fiero was killed. Overrated: The WRX. “oooh, my econo sedan has a turbo and AWD”. Yeah, so? You really need AWD to put 230 something HP to the ground? Give me a RWD WRX with all the drag and weight of the silly AWD system yanked out and then we’ll talk. ---
**Author:** ![Axis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/axis/32/5149_2.png) [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/28 "2010-02-12T08:40:24Z")
Underrated? s130s and z31s, but I’m probably biased. Overrated? Can’t really say since there’s so many possible choices, but I’ll probably go with NSX since they get humped a lot and most are pretty slow. ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/29 "2010-02-12T08:44:59Z")
Overrated:Beat to shit pieces of crap 240’s that dude bro’s want to make into SIQQQQQQ drift cars? How the fuck did a hairdressers car form the 90’s become THE car for tools to have? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/30 "2010-02-12T08:50:27Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Overrated:Beat to shit pieces of crap 240’s that dude bro’s want to make into SIQQQQQQ drift cars? How the fuck did a hairdressers car form the 90’s become THE car for tools to have? :word: Can you imagine how much the drift scene would sweat it if GM sold the rights to the 4th gen F-bod to a Japanese company and they re-released it under their nameplate as a drift car? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/31 "2010-02-12T10:07:43Z")
underrated - S2000. Anybody who’s done more than 6 track days who is given the keys to one and can drive this car flat out without killing themselves or pulling a very fast time is being a pussyfoot. changes are people who dislike this car simply drove it on the street in a safe way and couldn’t figure out what the big deal was. overrated - Scion tc. oh look, we put a 4cyl camry motor into an econobox and marketed it to kids as a sports compact. ---
**Author:** ![quadturbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7bcc69/32.png) [@quadturbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/quadturbo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/32 "2010-02-12T10:31:19Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > overrated - Scion tc. oh look, we put a 4cyl camry motor into an econobox and marketed it to kids as a sports compact. yes ---
**Author:** ![scarfache](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/scarfache/32/7403_2.png) [@scarfache](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scarfache)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/33 "2010-02-12T10:43:06Z")
From an everyday reliability/driving aspect: Overrated - Honda Civic Si…Aside from having one of the nicest shifting transmissions i’ve ever driven, the car is just plain overpriced and uncomfortable. The “racing” style seats are not supportive and options are very lacking and some are just stupid. Like the redline shift light (good luck seeing it in the daytime) and no blutooth unless u get the 24k version? The car is geared weird also, first gear is practically worthless but 2nd drops you so far below powerband the car takes forever to accelerate. Yea they are reliable but worth the extra money? I don’t think so. Underrated - New Kia Forte and Forte Koup…My mom just got one (koup) and that car is better put together than my corolla and my gf’s scion TC with more options, better mileage, better warranty, and so far no life threatening recalls (unlike my corolla) ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/34 "2010-02-12T11:12:57Z")
> [@scarfache](#): > > From an everyday reliability/driving aspect: > > Overrated - Honda Civic Si…Aside from having one of the nicest shifting transmissions i’ve ever driven, the car is just plain overpriced and uncomfortable. The “racing” style seats are not supportive and options are very lacking and some are just stupid. Like the redline shift light (good luck seeing it in the daytime) and no blutooth unless u get the 24k version? The car is geared weird also, first gear is practically worthless but 2nd drops you so far below powerband the car takes forever to accelerate. Yea they are reliable but worth the extra money? I don’t think so. > > Underrated - New Kia Forte and Forte Koup…My mom just got one (koup) and that car is better put together than my corolla and my gf’s scion TC with more options, better mileage, better warranty, and so far no life threatening recalls (unlike my corolla) if your talking about the new si, then youd be in love with the b series gear boxes (feel 100x better imo) although i have driven them around and the 2nd gear isnt as bad imo overrated- corvette, ya it might be fast, but the price that they are selling for new is getting up there… especially since their interiors feel like your in a cobalt underrated- 94-01 integra… ya ya give me that fwd bullsh\*t but mod for mod they perform all around great, get great gas mileage and are above average compared to most when you factor in how well rounded of a car they are (especially the type r) ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/35 "2010-02-12T11:14:34Z")
How is the price getting up there when it’s a performance car that outperforms anything within $25k? ---
**Author:** ![Copper280z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copper280z/32/5464_2.png) [@Copper280z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Copper280z)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/36 "2010-02-12T11:17:32Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > they are surprisingly quick. they are good for mid 15’s right? > > how about the subaru legacy GT with the indestructo engine like voltron had. apparently they only die if you pump boost #'s at them like they are a diesel. An N/A could probably get a 15 sec timeslip, a turbo was 14’s and 13’s with out much effort. People have made 275rwhp with the stock turbo+IC+exhaust. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/37 "2010-02-12T11:19:46Z")
> [@Saxon](#): > > if your talking about the new si, then youd be in love with the b series gear boxes (feel 100x better imo) although i have driven them around and the 2nd gear isnt as bad imo > > overrated- corvette, ya it might be fast, but the price that they are selling for new is getting up there… especially since their interiors feel like your in a cobalt > > underrated- 94-01 integra… ya ya give me that fwd bullsh\*t but mod for mod they perform all around great, get great gas mileage and are above average compared to most when you factor in how well rounded of a car they are (especially the type r) Wait, so a Corvette is too expensive for what is it, but the Type-R - a 10+ year old 4 cylinder econobox that still brings $15k+ is UNDERRATED? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/38 "2010-02-12T11:20:01Z")
God I love beat to shit 240s. I would take a beat ass SR swapped sil80 with 10 grand in it over a brand new camaro. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/39 "2010-02-12T11:25:17Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > overrated - Scion tc. oh look, we put a 4cyl camry motor into an econobox and marketed it to kids as a sports compact. Agreed, just never grew to liking them. ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213/40 "2010-02-12T11:35:15Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > Wait, so a Corvette is too expensive for what is it, but the Type-R - a 10+ year old 4 cylinder econobox that still brings $15k+ is UNDERRATED? that 10 year old econobox is what alot of sport compacts are still being compared to … [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-over-under-rated-car/79213.md?page=3)