# Most Safe & Most Dangerous Vehicles **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 16, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949 "2007-05-16T06:00:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/1 "2007-05-16T06:00:26Z")
I am sure the “stereotypical driver” for the vehicle comes into play as well as the design/quality of the vehicle. [http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024763&topart=pickups](http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024763&topart=pickups) > Lowest rates of driver death > Fewer than 20 driver deaths per million registered vehicle years for 2001-2004 model year. Make & model Rates per million > Chevrolet Astro 7 > Infiniti G35 11 > BMW 7 Series 11 > Toyota 4Runner 13 > Audi A4/S4 quattro 14 > Mercedes Benz E-Class 14 > Toyota Highlander 14 > Mercedes-Benz M-Class 14 > Toyota Sienna 17 > Honda Odyssey 17 > Lexus ES330 18 > Lexus RX330 18 > Toyota Sequoia 18 > Honda Pilot 19 > BMW X5 19 > > Highest rates of driver death > More than 140 driver deaths per million registered vehicle years for 2001-2004 model year. Make & model Rates per million > Chevrolet Blazer (2 door, 2WD) 232 > Acura RSX 202 > Nissan 350Z 193 > Kia Spectra (hatchback) 191 > Pontiac Sunfire 179 > Kia Rio 175 > Chevrolet Cavalier (2 door) 171 > Mitsubishi Eclipse 169 > Dodge Neon 161 > Pontiac Grand Am (2 door) 160 > Chevrolet Cavalier (4 door) 150 > Ford Mustang 150 > > The full Ratings and recommendations for more than 200 vehicles, along with the latest information on thousands of other products and services, are available to [ConsumerReports.org](http://ConsumerReports.org) subscribers. Find out how to subscribe today. ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/2 "2007-05-16T06:09:52Z")
> [@Insurance/Loans](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/insurance-loans/30181/13): > > I am sure the “stereotypical driver” for the vehicle comes into play as well as the design/quality of the vehicle. > > [http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024763&topart=pickups](http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024763&topart=pickups) I’m not suprised. Good find. ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/3 "2007-05-16T09:03:39Z")
> [@Insurance/Loans](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/insurance-loans/30181/13): > > I am sure the “stereotypical driver” for the vehicle comes into play as well as the design/quality of the vehicle. Exactly, the kind of people racing around in Eclipses and RSXs is much different than those rocking G35s, 7 series, and X5s. But the crash safety of the cars that rated well is probably pretty good all the same. > Some 4WD vehicles did better than their 2WD counterparts, which might reflect the lower center of gravity of some 4WD vehicles. That or the people realized the only way to get any money for a 2wd SUV, is from the insurance company. ---
**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/4 "2007-05-16T09:42:37Z")
4 door Cavalier death trap FTW. ---
**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/5 "2007-05-16T18:45:06Z")
Amazing that the Chevy Blazer was at the top of the list of the most, but yet you always here about the Ford Explorer deaths… ---
**Author:** ![PurpleMongoose](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purplemongoose/32/3349_2.png) [@PurpleMongoose](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PurpleMongoose)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/6 "2007-05-16T19:08:28Z")
I think the driver plays a bigger part in this than the vehicle does. Why aren’t there any stats of how many fatal crashes the drivers caused? Just how many killed themselves… ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/7 "2007-05-16T19:53:45Z")
> [@WTFind: A job](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtfind-a-job/30174/18): > > Amazing that the Chevy Blazer was at the top of the list of the most, but yet you always here about the Ford Explorer deaths… Explorer deaths = tire failure, Firestone Fiasco Blazer deaths = driver error, sooo prone to roll. Ours wanted to roll around every corner. Teh worste. ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/8 "2007-05-16T23:04:11Z")
> [@Callout MARCUS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-marcus/29791/352): > > 4 door Cavalier death trap FTW. 🤣 good find ---
**Author:** ![steelcitysix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/steelcitysix/32/5992_2.png) [@steelcitysix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/steelcitysix)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/9 "2007-05-17T01:07:44Z")
Im not starting anything but did anyone else notice 8 of the 12 death cars were domestics, but only one domestic on the safe list? ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/10 "2007-05-17T01:47:34Z")
G35 on the safest list, 350Z on the most dangerous. Clearly the “typical” driver plays a big role here (yes, I know the G35 is heavier, has a slightly longer wheel base etc. adding to safety, but it’s the same basic car). -TJ ---
**Author:** ![fico](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fico/32/6038_2.png) [@fico](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fico)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/11 "2007-05-17T05:53:11Z")
very interesting good find ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/12 "2007-05-17T05:58:32Z")
how many people drive a cavalier as compared to the a4 / s4? i can see more poeple driving the cheaper cars as opposed to the more expensive ones. also younger people tend to drive cheaper cars… ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/13 "2007-05-17T07:06:23Z")
good find ---
**Author:** ![AeroKing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aeroking/32/6011_2.png) [@AeroKing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AeroKing)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/14 "2007-05-17T07:12:26Z")
i’m suprised the Alero’s didnt make the worst list… ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/15 "2007-05-17T16:53:31Z")
> [@So you had a bad day...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-had-a-bad-day/30211/29): > > how many people drive a cavalier as compared to the a4 / s4? i can see more poeple driving the cheaper cars as opposed to the more expensive ones. also younger people tend to drive cheaper cars… It list the stat as “deaths per million cars registered.” I assume they extend the #s out to “estimate” death per million for those cars which don’t have over a million registered during that time period. Therefore, the smaller the number of registered vehicles the less I would trust those extended numbers though. The point about younger ppl is a good one though, and probably plays into the DRASTIC difference between G35 and 350Z deaths per mill. -TJ ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/16 "2007-05-17T17:21:18Z")
there is like 10 times as many stangs and cavaliers and even eclipses than any of the low rated cars…hence a greater chance of death in those cars lol ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/17 "2007-05-17T17:27:40Z")
Gee I wonder why the f-body isn’t on there :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![jcxcr4000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jcxcr4000/32/5980_2.png) [@jcxcr4000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jcxcr4000)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/18 "2007-05-17T17:56:45Z")
> [@So you had a bad day...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-had-a-bad-day/30211/22): > > Explorer deaths = tire failure, Firestone Fiasco sorry your wrong that was all caused from no one checking there air pressure which is the reason why every car built after sept. 2007 has to have some sort of air pressure monitoring system which will be either direct (small monitor either at valvestem or banded to wheel) or indirect (registers wheel speed through your abs system) all of this is going to turn into more costs everytime you install new tires which means ill be :idb: everyone even harder 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![FormulaVette](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/formulavette/32/3357_2.png) [@FormulaVette](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FormulaVette)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/19 "2007-05-18T07:55:02Z")
> [@So you had a bad day...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-had-a-bad-day/30211/47): > > sorry your wrong that was all caused from no one checking there air pressure which is the reason why every car built after sept. 2007 has to have some sort of air pressure monitoring system which will be either direct (small monitor either at valvestem or banded to wheel) or indirect (registers wheel speed through your abs system) > > all of this is going to turn into more costs everytime you install new tires which means ill be :idb: everyone even harder 🤣 I have the tire pressure monitors on the corvette and its a pita because none of the regular tire shops will touch them, so you have to take it to the dealer to get them recalibrated with every new set of tires. Now I just buy the tires online and take it to the dealership and have them do it all. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949/20 "2007-05-21T12:36:13Z")
i drive a death trap, oh noes. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-safe-most-dangerous-vehicles/189949.md?page=2)