# MotoCzysz **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 27, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738 "2008-03-27T11:56:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/1 "2008-03-27T11:56:33Z")
anybody catch the documentary on discovery channel the other day… its a pretty awesome one > **[MotoCzysz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotoCzysz)** > > MotoCzysz is an American motorcycle company based in Portland, Oregon that intended to compete in MotoGP. The C1 prototype engine was designed with perfect balance not needing a balance shaft. Some of the patented innovations included a slipper clutch with twin clutches, and a unique front suspension. The business also developed a successful electric racing motorcycle, the E1pc. MotoCzysz was founded by late American engineer and professional motorcycle racer Michael Czysz. In June 2009, MotoCz... [http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=home](http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=home) [http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=07C1](http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=07C1) **Engine** The 990cc four cylinder engine is mounted to the frame [longitudinally](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal_engine) (front-to-rear)—rather than [transversely](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_engine) (side-to-side) as found most similarly configured motorcycles. A transverse arrangement fights a bike’s gyroscopic tendency to stand up when leaned over and applying throttle. The C1, on the other hand, in order to negate the resulting gyroscopic forces of the longitudinal orientation, has its lengthwise-mounted [inline 4](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4) engine cut in half, and the resulting [crankshaft](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft) halves counter-rotated. Thus, the bike handles as if it had a smaller engine with less gyroscopic force.[[3]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotoCzysz#_note-cathcart) Two of the bike’s four [throttle bodies](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throttle_body) are controlled mechanically, while the other two are controlled electronically by the [ECU](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_control_unit), theoretically smoothing power delivery. The ECU-controlled throttle bodies can be adjusted by computer for refinement of the throttle curve. Unfortunately for the company the [FIM](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9d%C3%A9ration_Internationale_de_Motocyclisme) and [Dorna](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorna_Sports) have reduced the engine capacity for a MotoGP bike to 800cc’s for the 2007 season rendering the current configuration useless for competition in that class. Michael Czysz commented in a blog post[[4]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotoCzysz#_note-Czysz) that they have been looking towards racing the bike in either AMA or WSB competition. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/2 "2008-03-27T12:14:57Z")
From wiki: “Initial production has been set at 50 MotoGP replica bikes that will be offered for $100,000” Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/3 "2008-03-27T12:22:34Z")
I’ve been following them for a while. It is just a wild story, great perspective. Very neat to see what you can accomplish with a limitless pile of money. I can’t wait to see it become comptetetive w/ the factory teams and really push the thought process in terms of MC design. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/4 "2008-03-27T12:34:30Z")
I watched it… Kids jumping off the couch onto my head and all. 🙂 Its impossible to not hope he gets the program going. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/5 "2008-03-27T12:42:37Z")
This was pretty BA in HD - especially after they told one rider - “you dump it, it’s one million to replace.” “I just bought a Z/06, that’s like 14 of those!” This thing is stick thin. Looks so tossable. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/6 "2008-03-27T12:52:25Z")
they didnt have limitless money… they got the initial 2 bikes done with all the devlopment etc for 2.5-3 million they said… ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/7 "2008-03-27T12:54:19Z")
I liked the 5 engines statement. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/8 "2008-03-27T12:55:02Z")
It was one guy with a dream (and a almost-limitless) pile of money. Hey stole the best of everyone to get it done. Of course he still is in need of investors. It will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It was hardly someone saying “hay, this seems like a great business idea” It was more like “hay, I’m an incredible enthusiast, who has a giant pile of money and can make something like this start to happen” ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motoczysz/45738/9 "2008-03-27T13:30:32Z")
> [@walter](#): > > It was one guy with a dream (and a almost-limitless) pile of money. Hey stole the best of everyone to get it done. Of course he still is in need of investors. It will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. > > It was hardly someone saying “hay, this seems like a great business idea” > > It was more like “hay, I’m an incredible enthusiast, who has a giant pile of money and can make something like this start to happen” im still not seeing this limitless pile of money… did you see the documentary? he did design/prototype and build the first 2 bikes for under 2.5 million and was scrambling for more $$ the whole time… on the verge of investors pulling out etc. the guy did seem to have some of his own $$ to get it started, but it just seemed like a typical california business man type of money… not a huge amount but he did get some good engineers from cosworth to help with the engine design