# Motor Trend: Evo X vs. New Sti **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 26, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818 "2007-12-26T19:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/21 "2007-12-27T22:51:55Z")
i dont like either of the new cars. too heavy. too “refined” ie theyve lost the raw character of the older cars. they are following the typical plight of any car family. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/22 "2007-12-28T04:39:59Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > I don’t get how they unanimously picked the evo. The STI was faster 0-60, quarter mile, shorter stopping, more power, lighter weight, more cargo room… > They never actually said what the STI’s lap time was (or I missed it in the article). They must have left the DCCD in auto, since that’s the best way to get it to understeer. That seems to be how the magazine racing goes every year between these two. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/23 "2007-12-28T05:00:34Z")
Ugghhh STi :tup: ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/24 "2007-12-28T05:11:46Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > i dont like either of the new cars. too heavy. too “refined” ie theyve lost the raw character of the older cars. they are following the typical plight of any car family. > > Brian In the case of the evo i agree… it is a gigantic sedan. the sti is going more to the roots and point of what the sti is supposed to be, a hatchback rally car. it’s a bit bigger than it should have been but it is by no means a “wagon” as people are calling it. I drove the 08 wrx hatch, it handled very well even on crappy small all-seasons. I can’t wait to see what the 08 sti feels like. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/25 "2007-12-28T07:19:35Z")
I agree that both of these cars are getting way ahead of themselves in terms of what they’re supposed to be. It seems that they are loosing their characteristics of being no-nonsense pound-the-pavement street racers. Now they have more bells and whistles than a merc s-class ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/26 "2007-12-28T07:27:05Z")
This seems to happen with any successful performance car. “Wow we have been really successful with this set up lets make it heavier”! ---
**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/27 "2007-12-28T07:27:33Z")
I dont know what either company is doing but I’m not impressed ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/28 "2007-12-28T07:39:57Z")
> [@chino](#): > > In the case of the evo i agree… it is a gigantic sedan. > > the sti is going more to the roots and point of what the sti is supposed to be, a hatchback rally car. it’s a bit bigger than it should have been but it is by no means a “wagon” as people are calling it. > > I drove the 08 wrx hatch, it handled very well even on crappy small all-seasons. I can’t wait to see what the 08 sti feels like. True, subaru has been getting pounded by hatches in the wrc for a few years now. Maybe this is the design that will win some races for them. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/29 "2007-12-28T08:03:49Z")
I really think you people need to read before you spout of random bullshit… you all keep talking about how “these cars” are so much bigger and heavier. the evo is heavier, and it is stupid. the sti is the same fucking weight it was previous generation +/- a couple pounds… if i recall correctly, the 06/07 sti was 3350? this is 3351 ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/30 "2007-12-28T08:25:26Z")
^^ no you’re st00pid! :lol: new evo looks \> new sti new sti performance \> new evo civic \> all of the above ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/31 "2007-12-28T08:27:17Z")
Maybe one generation but, all cars seem to get heavier over time that is all I am saying. Maybe Subaru is lighter than they were tens years ago, I really don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/32 "2007-12-28T08:33:02Z")
> [@Toda Party](#): > > ^^ no you’re st00pid! :lol: > > new evo looks \> new evo sti > > new sti performance \> new evo > > civic \> all of the above lol im so confused, however im going with some sort of convoluted sarcasm, i can only summize that from the civic \> all statement since, well, thats just redic. :lol: > [@AWDrifter](#): > > Maybe one generation but, all cars seem to get heavier over time that is all I am saying. > Maybe Subaru is lighter than they were tens years ago, I really don’t know. thats pretty true… chalk it up to american assimilation i guess lol all of the 2002+ imprezas are heavier than 90’s versions, however this decades designs are pretty similar sorry my post was kind of attacking, everyone is bashing a car they’ve never seen or driven - its just getting old 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/33 "2007-12-28T08:35:45Z")
> [@chino](#): > > lol im so confused > > thats pretty true… chalk it up to american assimilation i guess lol > > all of the 2002+ imprezas are heavier than 90’s versions, however this decades designs are pretty similar > > sorry my post was kind of attacking, everyone is bashing a car they’ve never seen or driven - its just getting old 😛 This is true, i have never said the evo wasn’t a performer but it would look better as a galant and not an evo. The sti is just going with the times. They have been getting spanked by hatches so make a hatch… ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/34 "2007-12-28T08:52:14Z")
Yeah the bashing of cars not driven is getting old. Both of these cars are quite impressive really. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/35 "2007-12-28T08:56:57Z")
they all are too heavy for my tastes… even the current STi and EVO. give me less than 3000lbs and ill be happy 🙂 Brian ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/36 "2007-12-28T09:19:52Z")
chino - first & last were sarcasm, middle 2 lines were not ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/37 "2007-12-28T10:47:56Z")
ok i think i get it now 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/38 "2007-12-28T12:16:35Z")
shit i just noticed i wrote “new evo sti” lol…editing… ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2007, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/39 "2007-12-28T22:42:44Z")
> [@RobHimself](#): > > True, subaru has been getting pounded by hatches in the wrc for a few years now. Maybe this is the design that will win some races for them. Still, I wonder if adding weight at the rear is the right way to fix the weight balance issue that they have from hanging the engine out past the front axle. Yes, a boxer four isn’t all that long, and it does get the weight down low, but it is still out past the front axle, which means you are going to have to work harder to get the weight distribution where it needs to be. ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818/40 "2007-12-29T00:57:00Z")
> [@Danny\_Boy](#): > > I’ll take neather… > > “FEAST JAPAN”-“Car was a blast to run, but its just too big being wagon style based.” Are you kidding me ?? Try driving a Chevy Caprice or a Ford Crown Victoria… Then you can talk to me about being to “BIG”… > > Detroit Iron loyal… is this serious [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-evo-x-vs-new-sti/40818.md?page=3)