# Motor Trend tests new ZR1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 21, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667 "2008-10-21T13:46:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/81 "2008-10-21T22:03:03Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Actually, thats not what hes saying really. He’s defending the car since 75% of the people on here inst. started bashing it becuase their highly modified civics can run just as fast as the stock car. Hes not saying its better because its just as fast stock. Hes defending it saying its stock and it runs just as fast as your highly modified civic. Highly modify the ZR1 then compare if you want to be fair about it… exactly what Im saying… ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/82 "2008-10-21T22:03:13Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > No im not that person. It takes ALOT of car to over power even a 600cc bike…even if the car beats a 600, or hangs with it…its impressive. good answer. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/83 "2008-10-21T22:04:33Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > you guys dont get what im saying… > > your taking a highly moddified car, and comparing it to a bone stock car running a tad bit faster, and now all of a sudden the stock car isnt impressive, its a POS yada yada…and your highly modified car can only use its power in a straight line…stick it in the ring and all of a sudden the 700hp civic is useless against the 600hp zr1 on a coarse (given this is examples, no direct hit towards anyone on this forum) > > now your talking about seeing 900hp civics run 8’s…their a shit load more V8’s out there running 8’s then their is civics. > > theirs many ways to look at it, and many ways to have a debate about it. > > or we can always look at it this way…take both cars into consideration and compare them in stock form. An 8 second 900+HP street civic/integra is ridiculous and rare, 8 sec V8’s? big deal dime a dozen. You can’t even compare the cars in stock form, that’s just retarded. > [@LKSwhy?](#): > > After seeing Stephen from APR’s Porsche… I’m sold +1 even though before seeing that car I wanted a 996/997 > [@Pants Party](#): > > Actually, thats not what hes saying really. He’s defending the car since 75% of the people on here inst. started bashing it becuase their highly modified civics can run just as fast as the stock car. Hes not saying its better because its just as fast stock. Hes defending it saying its stock and it runs just as fast as your highly modified civic. Highly modify the ZR1 then compare if you want to be fair about it… But you can’t highly modify the ZR1 because of the market of aftermarket parts for it, and you’d be retarded to ruin a collectors item and start ripping it apart by modding it. Also the point the people talking about the civics or integras or whatever is that it takes like 10% of the cost of a ZR1 to make them that fast. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/84 "2008-10-21T22:04:40Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Highly modify the ZR1 then compare if you want to be fair about it… since that car doesnt exist yet, we shall not bench race it. but assuming it responds like the 03-04 cobra. it should make for a nasty car, or a 1 pass car since it needs a cage already ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/85 "2008-10-21T22:05:16Z")
And you cant use money. The last thing the person buying the ZR1 is thinking is " Shit I could have saved soooo much money if I just dumped 25% of what I spent on this car into a sweet civic". Nope, not what their thinking. ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/86 "2008-10-21T22:05:33Z")
It’s pretty difficult to compare a brand new ZR1 to a 10-15 year old Honda Civic. Tony Palo getting his Integra into the 8s is amazing. Although it wouldn’t do all to well in the twisties, thats for sure :ohnoes ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/87 "2008-10-21T22:05:57Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > since you editted ill reply to this also. i brought up the question, because when you see videos of cars and bikes racing and the car wins, people instantly say… good job, you beat a stock bike, that costs 10,000$… i asked if youre that type of person. because the way youre talking your saying pretty much, " big deal, your modded car runs 11.3’s when this BONE STOCK ZR-1 also does the same" quoted to signify my point. not to claim you to have said that I dont understand, are you missing what My point is? Im saying you get Highly moddified car owners jumping around saying that this and that car in stock form is not impressive because my highly modded car barely edged it out…Im talking in a second person point of view…not my own. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/88 "2008-10-21T22:07:15Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > since that car doesnt exist yet, we shall not bench race it. but assuming it responds like the 03-04 cobra. it should make for a nasty car, or a 1 pass car since it needs a cage already it does exist?? one just arrived in long Island to a personal owner…and Howard has one on the way. few shops have done testing… Bone stock it made 557rwhp…headers and a tune, it made 598…and 549rwtq. > **[More ZR1 Dyno Numbers with EFILive Tune and ARH Headers! - LS1TECH - Camaro...](https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/996594-more-zr1-dyno-numbers-efilive-tune-arh-headers.html)** > > Dynamometer Results & Comparisons - More ZR1 Dyno Numbers with EFILive Tune and ARH Headers! - Nicky and Jose fabricated an 1 7/8 inch header, custom X pipe and free flowing cats for the car. With some basic tuning with EFI Live (not wanting to push... ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/89 "2008-10-21T22:07:28Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > And you cant use money. The last thing the person buying the ZR1 is thinking is " Shit I could have saved soooo much money if I just dumped 25% of what I spent on this car into a sweet civic". Nope, not what their thinking. youre comparing two entirely different types of cars. dollar for dollar, the ZR1 is a great car, when compared to cars in its class, like a Ferrari, or lamborghini, or a GT2 Porsche… see what im saying… if you want to go FAST in a straight line, on a budget, buy a turbo honda… but again, different markets. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/90 "2008-10-21T22:07:47Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > it does exist?? one just arrived in long Island to a personal owner…and Howard has one on the way. dude, im saying a highly modded version, read what i quoted from pants party. ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/91 "2008-10-21T22:08:32Z")
I had that gut feeling this thread would turn into this…but I don’t regret starting it. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/92 "2008-10-21T22:08:58Z")
> [@Mike](#): > > I had that gut feeling this thread would turn into this…but I don’t regret starting it. threads like this are entirely necessary. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/93 "2008-10-21T22:09:17Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > And you cant use money. The last thing the person buying the ZR1 is thinking is " Shit I could have saved soooo much money if I just dumped 25% of what I spent on this car into a sweet civic". Nope, not what their thinking. yep, you’re right because a _ **majority** _ of people that will be buying them are old rich fucks that won’t mod it, but will have you here to dream/speak for them if they were to mod it. > [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > it does exist?? one just arrived in long Island to a personal owner…and Howard has one on the way. Some old guy already has a black one in the Colonie area. > [@Mk4 30R](#): > > youre comparing two entirely different types of cars. dollar for dollar, the ZR1 is a great car, when compared to cars in its class, like a Ferrari, or lamborghini, or a GT2 Porsche… see what im saying… if you want to go FAST in a straight line, on a budget, buy a turbo honda… but again, different markets. Exactly, and in that case I would be taking a Ferrari, Porsche, or Lamborghini. > [@Mike](#): > > I had that gut feeling this thread would turn into this…but I don’t regret starting it. :thumb ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/94 "2008-10-21T22:09:19Z")
Id be pissed if some prick in a Honda civic beat my brand new ZR1. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/95 "2008-10-21T22:10:13Z")
> [@Globe1280](#): > > Id be pissed if some prick in a Honda civic beat my brand new ZR1. especially if it looked like the red daily you have ;D ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/96 "2008-10-21T22:10:56Z")
> [@Globe1280](#): > > Id be pissed if some prick in a Honda civic beat my brand new ZR1. :rofl oh hell yeah ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/97 "2008-10-21T22:11:11Z")
Haha deff. Mike would of been “that guy” if the car was still together. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/98 "2008-10-21T22:11:36Z")
> [@Globe1280](#): > > Id be pissed if some prick in a Honda civic beat my brand new ZR1. that how you look at it… but is that how he looks at it? he might look at it like “hey, That highly modified car beat my bone stock one” and at the end of the day…the car is rare and sexy. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/99 "2008-10-21T22:12:01Z")
> [@Globe1280](#): > > Haha deff. Mike would of been “that guy” if the car was still together. yup…next year you _should_ be that guy ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667/100 "2008-10-21T22:12:17Z")
> [@Globe1280](#): > > Tony Palo getting his Integra into the 8s is amazing. Although it wouldn’t do all to well in the twisties, thats for sure :ohnoes Yes it would, its a street car! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-tests-new-zr1/239667.md?page=6)