# Motor went **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 27, 2006, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461 "2006-11-27T08:12:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/21 "2006-11-27T12:15:19Z")
> [@So I picked up another Conquest Today...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-picked-up-another-conquest-today/26074/21): > > So the belt was slipped off? And it was acting up b4 hand? > > I myself am not blaming it on the tune,but i have been told(by urself) and others.esp on CLUBGP that not so much a fried PCM but a malifunctioning one can cause a bearing to spin as well as a messed up tune. Now if the PCM is faulty,it can still run fine but all it takes is one lil fuck up or wire in the hearness for the PCM itself or circut to heat up when the motors warm and KABOOM ! U know what i mean. I have see nit as well as heard about it b4. How was he running b4 hand? It sucks when u cannot figure out the problem,i know when i hear fried ECU i think its shot and wont turn on, now short in wiring isnt part of the ecu belt slipping off could be from the bearings being shot and the crank walking some and allowing movement. also go to remember that motor seen 7k a good bit of time ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/22 "2006-11-27T12:15:36Z")
> [@fs: Oxy-Acetelyne torch and other stuff.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-oxy-acetelyne-torch-and-other-stuff/26077/4): > > More than a handful of 04+ GP guys have popped pistons due to aftermarket/tuned PCMs. yes pistons, but not bearings ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/23 "2006-11-27T12:16:27Z")
> [@didnt someone on here just claim to buy this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/didnt-someone-on-here-just-claim-to-buy-this/26108/35): > > it might be possible. but in his case quik said 12.8 AFR, which isnt what i would call TOO rich. 12.8 isnt rich at all since alot of LS1s like 13.0 and factory for them is 11.8 target ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/24 "2006-11-27T12:19:12Z")
> [@FS:Lambo door hinges](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-lambo-door-hinges/26117/2): > > it was the motor not the tune. people need to stfu!!! especially when they don’t what their talking about!!! i’m surprised the motor didn’t go sooner!!! that psi was damn low. we can put the tv2 in my car and use the tune and well see if i spin a bearing.😉 pull your motor out and we’ll build a forged 346 for me!!! you need injectors bud along with other shit before that car goes south also. the TA is at 80% duty cycle with her new tune and im sure your past that. if wnat it looked at or tuned get a hold of talin and we’ll go frome there ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/25 "2006-11-27T12:23:48Z")
lol @ your sig and the fact you dont’ even understand what i was talking about. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/26 "2006-11-27T12:26:06Z")
> [@Winged Warrior Hotel Options](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winged-warrior-hotel-options/25678/28): > > I’m **NOT** saying it was the tune - this is just a question! 🙂 Is it possible for a car to run so rich that fuel gets into the oil and wipes a bearing? I know my oil seemed pretty thin when I drained it, and it seemed to have an odor, but it could have been my imagination that it smelled odd. Or would it take something more severe like a leaky injector to dump that much fuel? It’s more possible for detonation to put excess stress on the bearing surfaces which area already warn from low oil pressure. it only take one metal to metal contact to grab the bearing and spin it. It’s hard to log detonation on all 8 cylinders when knock sensors are typically monitoring the hottest cyl. If the heads have been touched at all it makes it even more difficult to log cyl variances…but you’re on the right track also if the oil smells like gas, justin never mentioned. Hell i’ve seen rods bend from the detonation caused by running the wrong heat range spark plug. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/27 "2006-11-27T12:34:11Z")
> [@FS:Lambo door hinges](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-lambo-door-hinges/26117/2): > > it was the motor not the tune. people need to stfu!!! especially when they don’t what their talking about!!! It would probably be in your better interest to to gather information about what kind of things can cause the stress that eventually leads to bearing failure before jumping to conclusions like everyone else around here. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/28 "2006-11-27T12:56:52Z")
> [@Dish / DirecTV + Sabres](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dish-directv-sabres/26058/38): > > It’s more possible for detonation to put excess stress on the bearing surfaces which area already warn from low oil pressure. it only take one metal to metal contact to grab the bearing and spin it. It’s hard to log detonation on all 8 cylinders when knock sensors are typically monitoring the hottest cyl. If the heads have been touched at all it makes it even more difficult to log cyl variances…but you’re on the right track also if the oil smells like gas, justin never mentioned. > > Hell i’ve seen rods bend from the detonation caused by running the wrong heat range spark plug. again starting shit you have no clue about, his motor had issues long before a tune. cant any of you fuckers get that thru your fucking dumbass minds? and his motor didnt detnoate dumbass. if you recall he had issues soon as he did the oil pump!!! but i wouldnt expect some ppl to understand the text ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/29 "2006-11-27T12:59:28Z")
> [@Snowmobile goes across Water.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowmobile-goes-across-water/26027/16): > > It would probably be in your better interest to to gather information about what kind of things can cause the stress that eventually leads to bearing failure before jumping to conclusions like everyone else around here. if anyone is jumping conclusions its you. youre blaming the tune which and when he had issues long before the tune. thus wiping any blame of tune out. i can play the log to anyone. its a safe tune and his issue was because of low psi due to the oil pump or the O-ring not seating correctly. now you have no idea bout a LS1 or anythign involved with them. the chances or a ls1 rod bending or weaking due to what you stated is far from possible in this case. now before you go posting again go read up some and understand the text at hand knowing he had issues when the oil pump went in along with the cam. ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/30 "2006-11-27T13:01:38Z")
it sucks your engine blew… but no more threads about it. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/31 "2006-11-27T14:34:10Z")
here is another thing, most of you do not know. LS1 rod bolts are not good beyond 6800rpms, most say if u go over 6500 u should change em, i still had stock rod bolts in, and was many a times gone beyond 7k rpms, esp when the stock tach was still in the car, and was to slow, and i would hit the rev limiter while shifting which was at 7k or 7200rpms. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/32 "2006-11-27T14:36:17Z")
So it is driver neglegence u are saying? ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/33 "2006-11-27T14:38:34Z")
> [@Porsche dealer - "I got it wrong with the buy one get one free card".](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/porsche-dealer-i-got-it-wrong-with-the-buy-one-get-one-free-card/26100/26): > > So it is driver neglegence u are saying? ya, could be. its not somethign that happens all the time tho with the rod bolts, but havin the lower oil pressure prob helped em out. i prob wont fully know until i get to tear the mother fucker apart. i knew there where things that need to be done, but was hopin to make it until december then i was going to do the new build, but oh well ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/34 "2006-11-27T14:39:31Z")
> [@Porsche dealer - "I got it wrong with the buy one get one free card".](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/porsche-dealer-i-got-it-wrong-with-the-buy-one-get-one-free-card/26100/26): > > So it is driver neglegence u are saying? no, it has to do with the damm low oil psi and the revs dont help either. revs are there to go along with the cam. i used the same cam in larger motor and seen 7500 a few times and not issues. constantly shifting at 6800 but i also had good oil psi. i even tore down that motor i spun that high and no signs of anythng out of nature. now come 07 that motor will spin 7400 constantly ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/35 "2006-11-27T14:56:27Z")
> [@Mother stands up to the RIAA](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mother-stands-up-to-the-riaa/26087/13): > > no, it has to do with the damm low oil psi and the revs dont help either. revs are there to go along with the cam. i used the same cam in larger motor and seen 7500 a few times and not issues. constantly shifting at 6800 but i also had good oil psi. i even tore down that motor i spun that high and no signs of anythng out of nature. now come 07 that motor will spin 7400 constantly So like i said…drivers negligence(for not changing the rod bolts and taking all neccesary formatable changes):nono: We have all been down that road. Wwhen u do take apart, how will u know what caused it? As far as i know u A. take aprt lower end…B.Take off rod caps…C.look at the pretty scorched n smashed bearings and start all ove ragain:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/36 "2006-11-27T14:59:58Z")
10psi/1000 rpms it’s as simple as that, unless his car went under that it isn’t what caused the damage there was another factor plain and simple. If it grabbed the bearing then either there was a blockage, too much heat, rod stretch, or detonation causing uneven load, or vibrations through the crank because of out of balanceness. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/37 "2006-11-27T15:07:27Z")
if there is to much gas(in the oil),u can whip out main bearings! ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/38 "2006-11-27T15:08:12Z")
> [@FS: bunch of stuff to make my deductable paymen....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-bunch-of-stuff-to-make-my-deductable-paymen/26081/8): > > So like i said…drivers negligence(for not changing the rod bolts and taking all neccesary formatable changes):nono: We have all been down that road. not everybody does it, its not somthing that happens all the time. but my low oil prob helped out, and thats the luck i have with this car. > [@FS: bunch of stuff to make my deductable paymen....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-bunch-of-stuff-to-make-my-deductable-paymen/26081/8): > > Wwhen u do take apart, how will u know what caused it? As far as i know u A. take aprt lower end…B.Take off rod caps…C.look at the pretty scorched n smashed bearings and start all ove ragain:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: ya, should i have u there, since u have 3x the experience at lookin at “scorched and smashed bearings” ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/39 "2006-11-27T15:09:40Z")
> [@Did anyone else drive my car before i bought it?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-anyone-else-drive-my-car-before-i-bought-it/26098/28): > > if there is to much gas(in the oil),u can whip out main bearings! i would hav ementioned that too but i already did above so i figured it was useless to repost it again…but yeah. ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461/40 "2006-11-27T15:21:27Z")
> [@Did anyone else drive my car before i bought it?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-anyone-else-drive-my-car-before-i-bought-it/26098/28): > > if there is to much gas(in the oil),u can whip out main bearings! it is possible. esp on boat anchor type motor with fuel pumps running off cams. when the fuel pumps go bad it pumps the oil pan full of fuel. i would say difficult on newer motors but old school carb motors it can def happen [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-went/186461.md?page=3)