# Moving tomorrow...  DirecTV or TW?

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [April 14, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795 "2008-04-14T12:06:55Z")
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### Author: ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/41 "2008-05-08T09:29:24Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> ^fking employee discount shit

All TW offers, 1 HDDVR, 1 Standard Reciever, Roadrunner… 0.00

gotta love working for TW… And i get half off any OnDemand or PPV events.

If I didn’t work with TW though I would be looking at dish or dtv.

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### Author: ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/42 "2008-05-08T09:30:10Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I’m still torn between dish, direct, tw. since I’m pretty much forced to get roadrunner in rochester it makes this a hard choice on both value and selection.

How are you forced to get roadrunner? Who is the local phone carrier? Windstream or Verizon?

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/43 "2008-05-08T09:31:00Z")

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DSL has horrible latency. I have no idea who my local phone company is since I haven’t had a land line in 8 years.

unless some of you tell me DSL got better somehow and is cheaper than RR?

I could also get wimax from clearwire, but the data rates are a joke.

can I has fiber?

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### Author: ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/44 "2008-05-08T09:39:24Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> DSL has horrible latency. I have no idea who my local phone company is since I haven’t had a land line in 8 years.
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> unless some of you tell me DSL got better somehow and is cheaper than RR?
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> I could also get wimax from clearwire, but the data rates are a joke.
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> can I has fiber?

DSL does not have horrible latency… wtf are you talking about willis…

You do not need a landline phone in most cases for DSL nowadays… see “naked dsl”

Verizon’s based DSL is 768/128 and most times 14.99 a month.

DSL and Cable are similar services although you data throughput with DSL can drop if you are farther from the Carrier Office.

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/45 "2008-05-08T10:02:04Z")

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would any others like to confirm or deny this… it has been a bunch of years since I used dsl.

Rochester is frontier and maybe verizon for dsl I believe.

how can I tell if it’s naked?

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### Author: ![ILLRACEU](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ee7513/32.png) [@ILLRACEU](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILLRACEU)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/46 "2008-05-08T10:27:47Z")

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DSL rocks, I pay for the 768/128 mine shows closer to 1.5mbps download. It gets me all the porn I need.

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/47 "2008-05-08T10:30:35Z")

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stupid question… do I need to pay for phone service also?

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/48 "2008-05-08T10:31:34Z")

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Most people don’t called it “naked”

Most people call it a dry loop

You don’t need phone service to get a dry loop…its stand alone DSL on a line.

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### Author: ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/49 "2008-05-08T11:51:59Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Most people don’t called it “naked”
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> Most people call it a dry loop
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> You don’t need phone service to get a dry loop…its stand alone DSL on a line.

LZ is correct the right term is dry loop dsl… most places have it now so you do not need a land line phone.

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### Author: ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/50 "2008-05-08T12:43:26Z")

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> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#):
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> And as far as losing signal, it doesn’t matter which “Dish” company you go with, it’s all about the quality of installation. You must of had a bad technician originally. If its installed properly, you should never have a problem.

QFT, My DirecTV has never once lost signal in all the time I have had it. If you were losing signal it was due to a poor installation.

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### Author: ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/51 "2008-05-08T13:14:11Z")

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I was looking to get directtv or dish for the HD since time warner blows in that department. Only thing I don’t like is that I won’t be able to get any network channels. Now I hear there are ways around that…maybe one of the dtv/dish employees can help me out there? I don’t care what city they’re out of…I just want ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/52 "2008-05-08T13:20:03Z")

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dude, when is the last time you actually checked things out, DTV has local HD channels for a long time now, the only one they dont have is CBS, and thats not because of DTV, its lims thats refusing to carry it on dtv, i just use an antenna for that channel.

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### Author: ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/53 "2008-05-08T14:35:34Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> dude, when is the last time you actually checked things out, DTV has local HD channels for a long time now, the only one they dont have is CBS, and thats not because of DTV, its lims thats refusing to carry it on dtv, i just use an antenna for that channel.

CBS, PBS and CW aren’t carried for HD feeds.

But nothing OTA can’t handle… I really wish they would get off there ass and get the AM21 out to consumers.

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### Author: ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/54 "2008-05-08T15:02:35Z")

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Dish Network is launching local HDs this month, including CBS.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/55 "2008-05-09T05:19:12Z")

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> [@evane](#):
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> CBS, PBS and CW aren’t carried for HD feeds.
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> But nothing OTA can’t handle… I really wish they would get off there ass and get the AM21 out to consumers.

i know but he only said the major networks, plus with an antenna i get all of those stupid PBS channels anyways 🙂

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### Author: ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/56 "2008-05-09T06:36:20Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> dude, when is the last time you actually checked things out, DTV has local HD channels for a long time now, the only one they dont have is CBS, and thats not because of DTV, its lims thats refusing to carry it on dtv, i just use an antenna for that channel.

Last week…I don’t live in Buffalo so my local channel market is different.

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### Author: ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/57 "2008-05-09T07:10:01Z")

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Where is painted post??

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/58 "2008-05-09T07:18:06Z")

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upstate

near watkins glen

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### Author: ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/59 "2008-05-09T07:23:19Z")

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I’m actually in Avoca now with is a bit west of there but same general market. Right now my locals from TW are from Buffalo, Rochester, and Elmira. However I still can’t get any through the satellite companies without waivers which take a month or two and then still isn’t guaranteed.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/moving-tomorrow-directv-or-tw/46795/60 "2008-05-19T08:18:50Z")

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So my wife signs us up for Direct TV and the kid comes out today to install it and claims he can’t do it.  
I think he’s scared of heights or something.  
I told him to hook everything up and I will mount the dish later.  
He said he can’t do that because they will doc his pay. wtf?  
So I told him to leave the dish there and he said he wasn’t sure he had an extra.  
How was he going to hook it up in the first palce if he didn’t have enough with him?  
I can tell already this is going to be a great experience with direct tv.  
Why is nothing in my life EVER simple?:rant:I know…🎻

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