### Author:  [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/1 "2005-09-15T22:11:03Z")
cracked the cap today goin through moon, even the stock low grade crap from advanced survived a year. Only me Only me. gotta love the feeling like using 4cylinders :rolleyes:
threw the advanced crap cap on it and all good đź’¤
yes i carry spare parts :eek4dance
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### Author:  [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/2 "2005-09-16T03:32:36Z")
something is up with your igntion. you keep burning out rotors and now a cap
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### Author:  [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/3 "2005-09-16T07:14:19Z")
No Comment
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### Author:  [@imported\_jim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_jim)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/4 "2005-09-16T08:11:25Z")
MSD=overpriced junk that is heavily marketed.
Are you running one of their ignition boxes? If so, get rid of it and put a stock (OEM, not aftermarket) cap and rotor back on the car and use the factory ignition system. That solved a lot of problem I had with an MSD system years ago. Eventually I went with a Crane system and had no troubles with it.
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### Author:  [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/5 "2005-09-16T08:20:17Z")
low performance\
### Author:  [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/6 "2005-09-16T09:25:07Z")
doh, have had good and bad luck with msd. I have had boxes that were bad brand new.
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### Author:  [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/7 "2005-09-16T12:59:25Z")
its not the MSD thats the problem its the shaggy curse
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### Author:  [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/8 "2005-09-16T13:03:13Z")
> [@Quik](#):
>
> its not the MSD thats the problem its the shaggy curse
it’s a virus, not a curse…
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### Author:  [@A468Bu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A468Bu)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/9 "2005-09-16T13:11:45Z")
[QUOTE=jim]MSD=overpriced junk that is heavily marketed.
Are you running one of their ignition boxes? If so, get rid of it and put a stock (OEM, not aftermarket) cap and rotor back on the car and use the factory ignition system. QUOTE]
I don;t think that would be a good thing for me to do :dunno:
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### Author:  [@imported\_jim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_jim)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/10 "2005-09-16T13:18:17Z")
Why not?
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### Author:  [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/11 "2005-09-16T13:18:34Z")
i have a msd 6a i’ve been wanting to try, but i’ve been to lazy to wire it in.
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### Author:  [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/12 "2005-09-16T13:23:52Z")
rustang boy has a stock ignition on the car. and its got 170k+miles on it. hes burning rotors. something is up and now his check engine likes to stay on…answer to this is put that mule out to the pasture
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### Author:  [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/13 "2005-09-16T13:24:47Z")
> [@jim](#):
>
> Why not?
do you actually think a 1980 igntion could fire his Dart motor?
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### Author:  [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/14 "2005-09-16T13:27:36Z")
> [@Quik](#):
>
> …answer to this is put that mule out to the pasture
I second that… 🍺
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### Author:  [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/15 "2005-09-16T13:28:19Z")
i’m using a stock cap with msd 6al box and just got a two step 🙂
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### Author:  [@imported\_jim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_jim)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/16 "2005-09-16T13:40:05Z")
> [@Quik](#):
>
> do you actually think a 1980 igntion could fire his Dart motor?
I have no idea what he drives.
I do know that I went through several MSD boxes on my Mustang over ten years ago and they were shit. One was crap right out of the box for Christs sake. Now you understand why NASCAR temas run two or more on their cars, because one IS going to break during a race and it’s easier to just flip a switch and go to a backup or a backup to the backup.
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### Author:  [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/17 "2005-09-16T15:37:35Z")
ehhhh the car runs fine, problems are fixed and my rustang \> quiks
stock 92lx coil \> MSD boxes
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### Author:  [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/18 "2005-09-16T18:00:58Z")
yep any stang\>mine at teh moment
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### Author:  [@A468Bu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A468Bu)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/19 "2005-09-16T18:06:22Z")
> [@jim](#):
>
> I have no idea what he drives.
>
> I do know that I went through several MSD boxes on my Mustang over ten years ago and they were shit. One was crap right out of the box for Christs sake. Now you understand why NASCAR temas run two or more on their cars, because one IS going to break during a race and it’s easier to just flip a switch and go to a backup or a backup to the backup.
Problem with nascar teams is that they are running for hours at a time @ 8-9,000 rpm. Those boxes get hot. And heat is not good for them. Just like why do you think drag racers & the nascar teams have them mounted inside the side and not under the hood.
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### Author:  [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/msd-crap/177092/20 "2005-09-16T19:18:38Z")
thats what im thinking, i pulled it off an it was extremely hot.
ohwell it was basically given to me anyway. I shouldnt complain.
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