# MTO Engine swap declaration **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [December 2, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851 "2005-12-02T12:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scribbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@scribbles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scribbles)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/1 "2005-12-02T12:36:33Z")
So, I’m hearing that all engine swaps have to be registered with the MTO now or something ? I mean legally and what not… whats the deal with that ? aparently you need the serial and the model code ? so who knows the details on it ? ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/2 "2005-12-02T12:53:05Z")
never heard of it… but if indeed its a law or whatever then wouldnt the MTO state it in the highway traffic act etc etc… as they would on roll cages and other devices installed into/onto a vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/3 "2005-12-02T15:31:04Z")
MTO is gay. rules are stupid. just rock your car how you like and let them clog up the courts until they have no choice but to throw everything out and start again. ---
**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/4 "2005-12-02T20:25:29Z")
> [@spilner](#): > > MTO is gay. > > rules are stupid. > > just rock your car how you like and let them clog up the courts until they have no choice but to throw everything out and start again. sounds like a plan ---
**Author:** ![NiTeRiDeR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@NiTeRiDeR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NiTeRiDeR)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/5 "2005-12-02T21:15:32Z")
Say it’s a silvia/180sx :roll: ---
**Author:** ![scribbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@scribbles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scribbles)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/6 "2005-12-02T21:30:35Z")
so no one has any details on this ? I don’t care about it, I just want to be informed. so if you don’t know keep the off topics comments to a min please. ---
**Author:** ![Lith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@Lith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lith)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/7 "2005-12-03T09:19:11Z")
I just checked the HTA and it says nothing about that… ---
**Author:** ![NiTeRiDeR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@NiTeRiDeR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NiTeRiDeR)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/8 "2005-12-03T10:26:09Z")
> [@Lith](#): > > I just checked the HTA and it says nothing about that… Did you check the online one? They probably don’t append it very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Lith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@Lith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lith)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/9 "2005-12-03T11:11:19Z")
> [@NiTeRiDeR](#): > > [quote=Lith]I just checked the HTA and it says nothing about that… Did you check the online one? They probably don’t append it very quickly.[/quote] yup, the online one. I thought they would change that one accordingly as well ☹ ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/10 "2005-12-06T19:22:31Z")
yeah I tried to tell the MTO I had a 2L motor, and she said have you changed the # of cylinders, I said, no 4 clyinder she said no need to change ownership ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/11 "2005-12-07T04:00:35Z")
> [@S13GG](#): > > yeah I tried to tell the MTO I had a 2L motor, and she said have you changed the # of cylinders, > > I said, no 4 clyinder > > she said no need to change ownership darian has a good point… and its true if you have an SR now in place of the KA, then your ownership should say 2.0L Turbo. ---
**Author:** ![mr200](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr200/32/5495_2.png) [@mr200](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mr200)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mto-engine-swap-declaration/90851/12 "2005-12-07T08:47:16Z")
Ownership says nothing about power adders, only displacement and fuel type. My 200sx (which was a factory turbo) says 1.8 Gas This is nothing new, it’s just like changing your address or your paint color. It’s free to change information on your ownership, and it will give the cops one less thing to write up a ticket. But the odds of a cop a) noticing, b)having a clue are slim. If your ownership says RED and your car is now BLU you can get a ticket, because even the dumbest cop knows his primary colors. It’s a clerical thing though, your insurance company won’t find out through the MTO.