# Muay Thai or Krav Maga

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 17, 2007, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379 "2007-12-17T07:52:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/41 "2007-12-17T10:14:45Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> 1. I am going to own all of you

bold statement…

dummy ©JN’d

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/42 "2007-12-17T10:14:56Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> 1. I am going to own all of you
> 2. Carnut made a very important point that i thought of while in the gym right now. Confidence is a huge factor. I try to be in way better shape then most others and it does get into their head and elps mine as well.
> 3. You and Howie are big so im fighting mad dirty(cry now not later)

Mad dirty? First thing I’m going to do is eye gouge you or kick you in the balls. Then I’ll kimora your ass and make you tap out, or better yet, ARM BARS!!! yay!

lol @ what sureshot(!!!) will think of that post, at least the first part.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/43 "2007-12-17T10:16:05Z")

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> [@Daddie](#):
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> The conditioning level with my sensei is VERY demanding. 1/2 the class is assed out by the time we begin learning techniques (~15 minutes in). Also, you determine much of your own workout.
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> I pretty much strike 100% force all the time, unless I get partnered with someone who isn’t as physically stable. That’s when I strike a lot weaker, but tend to try to strike faster yet maintaining my form. **Some people have said that I strike (punches, palm heels, and elbows) harder when I look physically exhausted, but I give up form. However, no matter how tired I am I’m pretty much always going 100%.**
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> You also have to remember, some of krav is also learning how to take a hit…
> 
> Your Krav experience will also greatly be based on how good your sensei is. Our senseis are awesome, keep in a ridiculous shape level, learn all sorts of techniques (sambo, bjj, mma shit, boxing, muy thai, kempo, ninjitsu, blah blah blah). They kind of intertwine that with what we learn in Krav - like we know all these chokes and kimoras that normal level I students around the country don’t know.

This is similar to my “crackhead” mode. If i am feeling exhausted and like i dont have any other options left cause im being PWND. I will get to a standing position and throw an all out assult it is actually just a cover for the fact i am just tying to take one last shot at a god ground position but it has worked a few times other times i just got more PWNED.

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/44 "2007-12-17T10:16:18Z")

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AARON DONT COPY ME

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/45 "2007-12-17T10:19:08Z")

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IM SORRY JIM

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/46 "2007-12-17T10:19:10Z")

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> [@MicaH](#):
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> what a rediculous statement

Thanks for

> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> bold statement…
> 
> dummy

taking it seriousley LOL

> [@Daddie](#):
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> Mad dirty? First thing I’m going to do is eye gouge you or kick you in the balls. Then I’ll kimora your ass and make you tap out, or better yet, ARM BARS!!! yay!
> 
> lol @ what sureshot(!!!) will think of that post, at least the first part.

My plan is to wait till you come out of a bathroom throw 2-3 really good sucker punches with a solid groin kick then take off cause im really fast.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/47 "2007-12-17T10:20:23Z")

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😛

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/48 "2007-12-17T10:39:25Z")

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> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> ok so its settled…
> 
> Mike and Micah will fight in 2 weeks
> 
> Me as special goose referee

cool… no low blows though… im referring to you aaron 😉

> [@Daddie](#):
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> The conditioning level with my sensei is VERY demanding. 1/2 the class is assed out by the time we begin learning techniques (~15 minutes in). Also, you determine much of your own workout.
> 
> I pretty much strike 100% force all the time, unless I get partnered with someone who isn’t as physically stable. That’s when I strike a lot weaker, but tend to try to strike faster yet maintaining my form. Some people have said that I strike (punches, palm heels, and elbows) harder when I look physically exhausted, but I give up form. However, no matter how tired I am I’m pretty much always going 100%.
> 
> You also have to remember, some of krav is also learning how to take a hit…
> 
> Your Krav experience will also greatly be based on how good your sensei is. Our senseis are awesome, keep in a ridiculous shape level, learn all sorts of techniques (sambo, bjj, mma shit, boxing, muy thai, kempo, ninjitsu, blah blah blah). They kind of intertwine that with what we learn in Krav - like we know all these chokes and kimoras that normal level I students around the country don’t know.

im excited bout it tomorrow… ill let you know what happens. judging by what the girl said it sounds pretty intense both conditioning and training

my one concern is that being bigger, that my size will hurt me more than help. when i wrestled, it was the smaller guys that whipped my ass cause they had all the leverage

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**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/49 "2007-12-17T10:45:00Z")

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> [@Daddie](#):
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> lol @ what sureshot(!!!) will think of that post, at least the first part.

lol word, it’s true!

> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> My plan is to wait till you come out of a bathroom throw 2-3 really good sucker punches with a solid groin kick then take off cause im really fast.

That’s Krav alright. :lolsign:

For as much as I talk shit though, I wouldn’t wanna fight someone trained in Krav- as they definitely train with no rules, and on the street… well that’s it.

Someone mentioned the Human Weapon episode of Krav earlier, and it brought out a few great points. Jason Chambers’ main style is BJJ ( mine ) and when he took on the guys wielding a knife, he definitely got fucked up and his style proved worthless.

It’s true though, if I was in a 1 on 1 fight with someone I know I’d try and take them to the ground as soon as possible, and if they had a knife, id probably get stabbed ☹

Lastly- grappling is the best workout, no joke

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**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/50 "2007-12-17T10:47:08Z")

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Ugh, last thing:

A Krav guy came to my gym wearing his krav brown belt ( :tdown: )

and while he looked really out of shape, he had energy and determination that lasted for days, so maybe the conditioning associated with that style is legit.

he still got tooled on the ground by everyone at the gym though 🤣

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/51 "2007-12-17T10:47:42Z")

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If im fighting someone with a knife i hope i have my running sneakers on.

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/52 "2007-12-17T11:22:32Z")

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only way to know how to defend against a knife is to learn to fight with one…

i also learned how to knock out a dog if ever attacked…(it involves taking a bite followed by a quarter turn and a knee to the canine’s HEAD)

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/53 "2007-12-17T11:26:32Z")

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> [@MicaH](#):
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> i also learned how to knock out a dog if ever attacked…(it involves taking a bite followed by a quarter turn and a knee to the canine’s HEAD)

ok… youre now officially my hero… anyone that knows that in life has my respect

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/54 "2007-12-17T11:35:09Z")

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> [@MicaH](#):
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> only way to know how to defend against a knife is to learn to fight with one…
> 
> i also learned how to knock out a dog if ever attacked…(it involves taking a bite followed by a quarter turn and a knee to the canine’s HEAD)

You are right about the knife thing but trust me when i tell you some things are better left alone. Training is one thing reality is another.

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/55 "2007-12-17T11:36:04Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> You are right about the knife thing but trust me when i tell you some things are better left alone. Training is one thing reality is another.

of course, but you are better off with training and preparation; physically; technically, and mentally most importanly… ly

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/56 "2007-12-17T11:37:22Z")

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correct…i would still run lol

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/57 "2007-12-17T11:40:47Z")

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yea i hear ya… i would keep a distance of course and utilize kicks to inner forearm, or other various stuff

we also train sometimes with a slippery floor, to imitate wet grass or snow

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/58 "2007-12-17T11:43:20Z")

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Where do you train?

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**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/59 "2007-12-17T11:47:56Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> Where do you train?

its an hour train ride from here in Bangkok

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muay-thai-or-krav-maga/40379/60 "2007-12-17T11:48:48Z")

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