# muddy frothy oil FTL

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 12, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979 "2007-01-12T15:49:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/21 "2007-01-13T10:50:44Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> it just reinforces it… im thinking the same thing, but there was just more foam than i am used to seeing. my previous cars werent nearly this bad.

Thats GM for you, trust me. Any pictures?

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**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/22 "2007-01-13T12:45:45Z")

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I had to do the usual intake manifold gasket on my wife’s 3.4 lumina minivan a few weeks ago. I don’t think I will ever be buying anything else powered by GM; unless it says LS something on it.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/23 "2007-01-13T14:37:54Z")

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> [@redrum](#):
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> That sucks ass. Let me know the job is, if its not terrible i may preemptively do mine with a new gasket and arp head studs.
> 
> Mine has actually been losing coolant when I drive it hard for extended periods of time and I was worried about the hg, but the other day I saw a small puddle under the car, so I think one of the turbo coolant lines has a pinhole that pisses when its under a lot of pressure. Somewhat of a relief. Still haven’t gotten in there to see which one it is and replace it.
> 
> Saabs are always… entertaining.

the first time it happens you are supposed to retorque the head bolts. number 10 is usually the one thats loose.

i drained the oil, and it looks murky, and theres a bit of fuel in it, but no water. however, the front of the block is wet (nothing on the head). so i still think this HG is on the way out.  
for now im just going to keep an eye on the oil, and coolant levels.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/24 "2007-01-13T15:05:06Z")

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Good luck.

Maybe I don’t want to buy a saab  
GM is starting to scare me.

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**Author:** ![JSTANEON](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jstaneon/32/7267_2.png) [@JSTANEON](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSTANEON)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/25 "2007-01-15T18:40:48Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> it just reinforces it… im thinking the same thing, but there was just more foam than i am used to seeing. my previous cars werent nearly this bad.

Well good luck man. Hopefully its nothing major.

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**Author:** ![MonteCarloChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@MonteCarloChick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MonteCarloChick)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/26 "2007-01-15T18:44:37Z")

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Valve cover off of a 3100 from a '96 Corsica I worked on:

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/montecarlochick/111135409_356864067_0.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/montecarlochick/111135409_356864067_0.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muddy-frothy-oil-ftl/22979/27 "2007-01-15T20:34:33Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> yeah, american made gm engines are the bomb. woot
> 
> theres nothing sweeter than doing a little tune up; checking the pcv and finding muddy/frothy oil. take off the valve cover, no froth, but i know oil shouldnt be brown.
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> oh, and look theres water coming out between the head and block.
> 
> i almost forgot… this is a common problem. pretty fuct up common problem if you ask this pissed off mod.
> 
> i wonder if these gm motors were designed by the dsm guys… hrm

Yeah my Achieva had condensation in the oil…I just ignored it…though maby thats why it kept overheating :gotme: lol.

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