# Muscle car tuner showdown..Supersnake, HPE650 Camaro SS, and speedfreaks Challenger **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 26, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879 "2009-10-26T20:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/1 "2009-10-26T20:35:50Z")
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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/2 "2009-10-26T20:44:05Z")
Saw that earlier, pretty good test. Sucks the GT500 didnt have good rubber like the other two, but what can ya do… ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/3 "2009-10-26T20:49:05Z")
> [@Head light Mod question...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/head-light-mod-question/24937/18): > > Saw that earlier, pretty good test. Sucks the GT500 didnt have good rubber like the other two, but what can ya do… what can ya do? admit the Camaro SS is ontop!!! ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/4 "2009-10-26T20:50:23Z")
With DOT-R tires vs street tire, yes, the SS edges it out :lol I love how biased they are though, the camaro “blows the competition outta the water”…yeah, by .1 and 1mph :rofl ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/5 "2009-10-26T20:52:40Z")
> [@94Gt5.0"](#): > > With DOT-R tires vs street tire, yes, the SS edges it out :lol > > I love how biased they are though, the camaro “blows the competition outta the water”…yeah, by .1 and 1mph :rofl lol honestly I just watched after the skid pad and shut it off LOL ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/6 "2009-10-26T20:54:31Z")
:lmao You would ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/7 "2009-10-26T21:02:56Z")
> [@94Gt5.0"](#): > > I love how biased they are though, the camaro “blows the competition outta the water”…yeah, by .1 and 1mph :rofl yeah i thought that was funny too ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/8 "2009-10-27T02:24:00Z")
give me that challenger with the steel widebody and im goooood ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/9 "2009-10-27T05:22:16Z")
> [@Mk4 30R"](#): > > give me that challenger with the steel widebody and im goooood so you want to make a tank even heavier? lol ---
**Author:** ![offroadzj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/offroadzj/32/6428_2.png) [@offroadzj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/offroadzj)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/10 "2009-11-06T21:00:55Z")
lets let henessey make their own version of the challenger and see how much it spanks that camaro… lol. Speedfreaks is good, but henessey is just insane with their builds. I think that they should have had 1 company build all 3 to really test the platforms rather than the builders. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/11 "2009-11-06T21:11:52Z")
> [@FS: 16x6 Acura/Honda Wheels (BLACK)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-16x6-acura-honda-wheels-black/12054/11): > > so you want to make a tank even heavier? lol yup. itll add all of 60lbs to the body. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/12 "2009-11-07T12:09:41Z")
> [@Latest crime wave in Buffalo... Inspection sticker theft](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/latest-crime-wave-in-buffalo-inspection-sticker-theft/25487/3): > > lets let henessey make their own version of the challenger and see how much it spanks that camaro… lol. Speedfreaks is good, but henessey is just insane with their builds. I think that they should have had 1 company build all 3 to really test the platforms rather than the builders. Yeah Henessey will do a great job, they’ll take the cash and sell his stock parts! ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/13 "2009-11-07T13:46:08Z")
sounds like another company local to ---
**Author:** ![Dread](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dread/32/6544_2.png) [@Dread](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dread)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/14 "2009-11-07T14:11:25Z")
Howd the challenger come in third? The Supersnake should definetly be in third. 181 horsepower more than the challenger yet slower around the track, what a joke. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/15 "2009-11-07T14:13:36Z")
> [@E92 M3 Revealed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e92-m3-revealed/25498/14): > > Howd the challenger come in third? The Supersnake should definetly be in third. 181 horsepower more than the challenger yet slower around the track, what a joke. Its the only car not on R-spec tires too… The SS is off the showroom floor, not raceprepped like alot of the other cars came… ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/16 "2009-11-07T14:24:11Z")
haha. Seems like the new Camaro’s performance (stock and modded) is far greater than the Mustang’s. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/17 "2009-11-07T14:31:40Z")
> [@Downtown Lunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downtown-lunch/25495/23): > > haha. Seems like the new Camaro’s performance (stock and modded) is far greater than the Mustang’s. A new camaro beats the GT500, since when? Also took alot of mods to barely beat out the SS by .1 with better tires. Not impressed! ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/18 "2009-11-07T14:32:17Z")
worst part of that whole thing is ,ya just saw basically a tuned edition of the showroom z-28 .at a fraction of the cost of the superslouch ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/19 "2009-11-07T14:34:04Z")
The “superslouch” aint all that much better than a GT500, Id rather have a 500 over it actually! And the “new Z28”, IF it comes out, isnt going to have a huge cam, big heads, catless exhaust etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/20 "2009-11-07T14:35:23Z")
Plus, its known fact that Motortrend HATES ford, and it always shows in their comparos. Theyve been swinging Camaro nuts for a long time [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879.md?page=2)