# Muscle car tuner showdown..Supersnake, HPE650 Camaro SS, and speedfreaks Challenger **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 26, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879 "2009-10-26T20:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879/32 "2009-11-07T15:52:20Z")
> [@951 winter progress](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/210): > > so that stock 5.4 has the same guts as every other 5.4 out there or even the gt500 come on .im not buyin that bullshit .ford cant make any forced induction really work for them thats why there is the svt and shelby without them ford would still be chasin the bowtie Yes it is. Evolution motorsports has gone into the 8’s @160 mph with a STOCK Gt500 uprgraded with a twin turbp seup instead of the blower making over 1000rwhp. The SuperSnake shares the exact same motor as the 500, and the only upgrade is the Ford Racing/Whipple blower. Hard to believe, I know :lol As for not having good F/I motors, look at the terminators, the 500, and the new Ecoboost setup. V6 putting a 4300lb car into the mid 12’s with just a TUNE!! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muscle-car-tuner-showdown-supersnake-hpe650-camaro-ss-and-speedfreaks-challenger/247879)._