# Muwahahahah! Holy shit! **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 23, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muwahahahah-holy-shit/267765 "2013-09-23T15:27:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 125
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muwahahahah-holy-shit/267765/125 "2013-10-07T08:42:03Z")
> [@Day crew vs Night crew thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/day-crew-vs-night-crew-thread/53549/12): > > first off vlad, read this and you can see the inception of which the speech was derived: > “If your government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is big enough to take away everything you have.” > Neither this quotation nor any of its variant forms has been found in the writings of Thomas Jefferson. Its first known appearance in print was in 1953, although it is most likely older. It appeared frequently in newspapers in the 1950s (usually unattributed), and was even used in political cartoons. It was copyrighted in 1957 by the General Features Corporation, as part of a syndicated newspaper feature called “Today’s Chuckle.” It later became a popular saying among Republican politicians. Governor Harold W. Handley of Indiana used it in his annual message to the Indiana General Assembly in 1961;[[3]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote3_wk22qix) Barry Goldwater was quoted using it in his 1964 run for president;[[4]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote4_ao7g79y) and Gerald Ford is on record using it in an address to a joint session of Congress on August 12, 1974.[[5]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote5_f9zhdbu) It was attributed to Ford as early as 1954, however,[[6]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote6_nfogymo) and Ford’s assistant, Robert Hartmann, said that Ford claimed to have heard the quotation “early in his political career” from Harvard McClain at the Economic Club of Chicago.[[7]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote7_lke8w6y) This quotation was not attributed to Jefferson until relatively recently. It is sometimes followed by, “The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases,” which is most likely a misquotation of Jefferson’s comment, “[The natural progress of things is for liberty to yeild, and government to gain ground](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/natural-progress-things-quotation).”[[8]](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote8_deldsik) > > [now, i wasnt that far off.](http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/government-big-enough-to-give-you-everything-you-wantquotation#footnote8_deldsik) > > next, i AM out for myself. im not here to support john q welfare down the street, nor do i expect you to. this country is comprising it moreso daily with the mentality that people are owed things just for being alive. life doesn’t owe you shit… the government doesn’t owe you shit, and i as a tax payer am fucking fed up paying into the federal government for them to turn around and use my hard earned tax dollars to fund welfare and now fucking obamacare to take care of deadbeat pieces of shit who’d rather vote for a living instead of work for one. > > zoning laws are one thing, signage is another. if the authorities are going to harass this individual for putting up a PRO 2ND AMENDMENT SIGN in his yard, which btw is only reitterating the overlying laws of the land and his beliefs that its correct, then they better shut down every 5 year olds lemonade stand as well for zoning restrictions having a business in a residential area… do you see how fucking insane that sounds? my views. my property, my RIGHTS to express my beliefs without infringing upon someone elses RIGHTS under the prevailing laws of the land. government has gone too fucking far. > > now as for any personal vendetta you may or may not have against me (hah), ill gladly discuss that anytime you want in a private setting. this is not the place for such a discussion. this goes for any of you. We are a society. I don’t like my taxes supporting anything you do just as much as you don’t like supporting “q welfare” but it doesn’t matter, you don’t get to decide. If you want to be selfish, then don’t live in a society. It doesn’t matter what you like or don’t like as far as where your tax dollars goes. Half of our budget is millitary 50% and half of a percent is NASA .5% . I’d like to support NASA more but thats not upto us. You can sit and complain all you want and in the end of the day you’re just throwing words into the wind. Man you should go on Fox, they will love you there. Rights this, government that, welfare, people owed etc. I’m done here, I can be more productive staring at a wall for 10 minutes than trying to have a conversation with you. In the end of the day the guy with the sign won’t get anywhere, you will be fighting for your agenda of trying to overturn the socialist government as a one man army while complaining about welfare until the cows come home. I’ll continue having my happy live not giving a shit about you or some idiot disregarding regulations and being over ruled by the town even after being warned. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/muwahahahah-holy-shit/267765)._